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Brenda66
Oct 28, 2008, 11:15 AM
Am I the only woman, but I do find Teaching a man how to suck cock so exciting and even more so showing him!!!

Anyone else ??

Comments???

Brenda

thistle
Oct 28, 2008, 11:52 AM
i love that idea and would love to sign up for lessons.

angelrose1955
Oct 28, 2008, 1:04 PM
Well, I do not mean to brag, but I have been told I have an amazing way with cocks...and I will be giving lessons to shameless (if he wants)..hehehe..as if that wonderful mouth needs any lessons...
It is exciting to show someone how I do it, but I do not divulge all my secrets, for if I did, then what I do wouldn't be special anymore would it??
Would love to tag team with him on another bi male...that would be the ultimate...besides watching him with the male that is...
AngelRose

DiamondDog
Oct 28, 2008, 4:02 PM
Sorry I don't find this hot at all.

Men don't need any help learning how to suck cock, because it's just something that we know how to do very well, and even the worst fellatio from a man is better than excellent fellatio from a woman.

Yeah I know it's not PC to say that but it's true. It's just like how only a woman really knows how to give excellent oral sex to another woman better than a man does.

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Oct 28, 2008, 5:36 PM
Oh HELL Yes! Showing one how to suck a sweet, succulent (no pun intended) hard, quivering, cock is One of the hottest things in the world!!!!! Especially if its his first time, or if he's done it before but its been a while. I Adore having a male lover hold a "Demonstrators" hard cock gently at the base, then have Both of them watch me doing what Minx's(my Lifestyle handle) love doing best..lol This way they can watch me work my mouth magic and it can arouse both of them at the same time, and perhaps encourage the watcher to want a taste too..lol:three:
Is it gettin warm in here??????
Silly Cat

onewhocares
Oct 28, 2008, 6:00 PM
Men don't need any help learning how to suck cock, because it's just something that we know how to do very well, and even the worst fellatio from a man is better than excellent fellatio from a woman.

Well, I must take exception to your above comment. Perhaps this has been your experiance, but if you are lucky someday a woman will come into your life and give you a most enjoyable surprise.

Many women, and Yes I do include myself in this catagory, are better than some men who love to give each other head. Some of us take great pride in the touch that we posess and love to see the expression on our mans face, hear the sounds of pleasure and feel the quivering of the rest of their bodies. The proof is in the enjoyment of the man I am with.

As the old addage states....those who can do...

Belle

Doggie_Wood
Oct 28, 2008, 6:12 PM
Sorry I don't find this hot at all. What's new?

Men don't need any help learning how to suck cock, ... excuse me but some men do!
and even the worst fellatio from a man is better than excellent fellatio from a woman. ...you have never had "granny's gum-blo"

Yeah I know it's not PC to say that but it's true. It's just like how only a woman really knows how to give excellent oral sex to another woman better than a man does........
not some of the ladies I've been with say that, but "as good as"


Well, I must take exception to your above comment. Perhaps this has been your experiance, but if you are lucky someday a woman will come into your life and give you a most enjoyable surprise. like granny with her gum-blo

As the old addage states....those who can do... exquisitely

Belle


Nuff Said

:doggie:

junior8
Oct 28, 2008, 6:23 PM
I find this interesting and would love to sign up for lessons from a woman.

Bi-Zarro
Oct 28, 2008, 6:36 PM
I'm finding myself rather aroused by the concept...heh...

DiamondDog
Oct 28, 2008, 6:59 PM
What's new?

excuse me but some men do!


...you have never had "granny's gum-blo"

not some of the ladies I've been with say that, but "as good as"

Originally Posted by onewhocares
Well, I must take exception to your above comment. Perhaps this has been your experiance, but if you are lucky someday a woman will come into your life and give you a most enjoyable surprise. like granny with her gum-blo

As the old addage states....those who can do... exquisitely

Belle

:doggie:

Um what?

I'm not attracted to older/geriatric women at all, certainly not women who don't have any teeth, and I don't have incest fantasies about my grandparents at all nor do I desire sex with any relatives and my grandparents don't wear dentures.

What I wrote is the truth even if yourself and others don't want to believe it.

Women just don't know how to please a man as well as other men do when it comes to masturbatory sex, oral sex, and probably even anal sex as well since toys don't compare to a real penis, a woman doesn't have a penis, and a woman doesn't have a prostate or know what a prostate orgasm is like.

Only a man understands what it's like to have a penis or use it, and it's like how a man doesn't understand what it's like to have a clitoris, what a clitoral orgasm is like vs. a g-spot orgasm, as well as another woman does.

Her vagina itself can never thoroughly pleasure your penis like a man's hands & mouth, if he's good & knows from experience. This is just reality.

Annika L has written about how only other women really know how to give excellent oral sex to women and I agree with this and nobody flipped out at her posts about this or when Darkeyes has written this.

Only a man really understand a penis. Plus probably only another woman really gets a clit. I honor that some hetero relationships are genuinely intense & profound, only most often those too are distorted by the social, cultural substrate.

smltownbiguy
Oct 28, 2008, 7:14 PM
I would love to sign up for lessons to have a woman "teach" me. Angel where do I sign up?

allbimyself
Oct 28, 2008, 7:28 PM
Oh, christ, here we go again!

The "common wisdom" that oral is best when given by a person of the same gender is TOTAL BULLSHIT!

The only thing a person needs to be good at oral is to pay attention to what the recipient's body is doing and the DESIRE to do it well. End of story. You don't need a penis to be good at sucking cock and you don't need a pussy to be good at eating one.

It's quite obvious where these misconceptions come from. Very few people ever give head to a MOSS unless they WANT to. But many, many perform oral on MOOS that don't really want to because it's expected in a str8 relationship.

ON THE AVERAGE, yes, I've gotten better head from men, but the BEST I ever got was from a woman. End of story.

Tom41bimwm
Oct 28, 2008, 7:41 PM
i'd be cool with having a woman show me how she sucks cock. i'm sure it would some fun conversation lol while teaching it.

DiamondDog
Oct 28, 2008, 9:52 PM
Oh, christ, here we go again!

The "common wisdom" that oral is best when given by a person of the same gender is TOTAL BULLSHIT!

The only thing a person needs to be good at oral is to pay attention to what the recipient's body is doing and the DESIRE to do it well. End of story. You don't need a penis to be good at sucking cock and you don't need a pussy to be good at eating one.

It's quite obvious where these misconceptions come from. Very few people ever give head to a MOSS unless they WANT to. But many, many perform oral on MOOS that don't really want to because it's expected in a str8 relationship.

ON THE AVERAGE, yes, I've gotten better head from men, but the BEST I ever got was from a woman. End of story.

You probably haven't been with the right guy yet or you haven't had oral sex with that many men at all. Otherwise you wouldn't be saying that, and no it's not bullshit that men give other men better oral sex than a woman ever can.

I've done things to men/had things done to me during oral sex with men that women don't want to do at all, or that women simply can't do, and there are fetishes and other things that only other men understand/can fulfill, and women either can't do/fulfill, and even if they could women wouldn't want to do.

Also who is to say that oral sex is expected in a "str8" relationship? I know many heterosexuals who either don't like to give or receieve oral sex and just prefer anal/vaginal sex. Anyway that's not what I meant when I wrote about hetero relationships.

You've even admitted to yourself that:

Sorry guys, men aren't what I'm looking for in an LTR. I enjoy sex with both, but I've only fallen in love with women.

It's not your fault that you can't fall in love with men and that you're not as sexually attracted to them as you are with women; but I gaurentee you that if you could fall in love with men and were more sexually attracted to men than you are, you'd understand how even the worst oral sex between men is far better, it can be spiritual in ways that a woman giving fellatio to a man never will be, and it's far superior to that of a woman giving a man (in her mind) "excellent" fellatio. End of story!

Anyway I have no need for such instruction from a woman or anyone at all; but I'm naturally gifted at this art, as many can attest. I'm also good at being a feeder to a cocksucker if we're into those roles. ;) My ex would probably be into teaching women how to suck cock as long as they are submissive and into bondage/SM/kink and if they were his type.

Long Duck Dong
Oct 28, 2008, 10:17 PM
oral from a male or a female or to a female or male.....I will honestly say that its not the gender that makes oral special.....but the way it is done

oral sex is oral sex, you are either doing it exceptionally or not...the gender is not important......

I have always been of the mind that you are not sucking a cock, you are making love with your mouth to a sensitive penis and making it sing.....and thats something that is not gender specific but part of the person themselves

dougbi
Oct 28, 2008, 10:55 PM
Sounds like fun, maybe this could be a match-making service? Match teachers, students and "test subjects"... sign me up for any of the above...

On the who's better argument, based on my limited experience, women have a slight edge. I agree that having a set of the equipment does not necessarily translate into being able to use it...

Of course I was a natural, hit a home run my first try...
:flag4:

darkeyes
Oct 28, 2008, 11:09 PM
You probably haven't been with the right guy yet or you haven't had oral sex with that many men at all. Otherwise you wouldn't be saying that, and no it's not bullshit that men give other men better oral sex than a woman ever can.

I've done things to men/had things done to me during oral sex with men that women don't want to do at all, or that women simply can't do, and there are fetishes and other things that only other men understand/can fulfill, and women either can't do/fulfill, and even if they could women wouldn't want to do.

Also who is to say that oral sex is expected in a "str8" relationship? I know many heterosexuals who either don't like to give or receieve oral sex and just prefer anal/vaginal sex. Anyway that's not what I meant when I wrote about hetero relationships.

You've even admitted to yourself that:


It's not your fault that you can't fall in love with men and that you're not as sexually attracted to them as you are with women; but I gaurentee you that if you could fall in love with men and were more sexually attracted to men than you are, you'd understand how even the worst oral sex between men is far better, it can be spiritual in ways that a woman giving fellatio to a man never will be, and it's far superior to that of a woman giving a man (in her mind) "excellent" fellatio. End of story!

Anyway I have no need for such instruction from a woman or anyone at all; but I'm naturally gifted at this art, as many can attest. I'm also good at being a feeder to a cocksucker if we're into those roles. ;) My ex would probably be into teaching women how to suck cock as long as they are submissive and into bondage/SM/kink and if they were his type.

...me jus luffs the certainties a the arrogant "God's Gifts" .. 1 avenue for hysterical gigglin wud b cut off if they wern round... how dull life wud b then...:tong:

.. an peeps hav the cheek 2 say me is vain...:eek:;)

Ta for the laffs DD... tee hee:bigrin:

31cho
Oct 28, 2008, 11:30 PM
Am I the only woman, but I do find Teaching a man how to suck cock so exciting and even more so showing him!!!

Anyone else ??

Comments???

Brenda
Well sorry to say this but if you are a bi male you should know how to suck a cock.You dont need a women to show you how to do it.I my self had no complaints.But i must say it is hot to share a cock with a girl.

allbimyself
Oct 28, 2008, 11:30 PM
You probably haven't been with the right guy yet or you haven't had oral sex with that many men at all. Otherwise you wouldn't be saying that, and no it's not bullshit that men give other men better oral sex than a woman ever can.Ah, yes, you can claim it isn't bullshit but that doesn't make it true. Nor does your claim that you've had more men go down on you. I could just as easily claim that you don't know shit about it either since you've probably never had a woman go down on you.


I've done things to men/had things done to me during oral sex with men that women don't want to do at all, or that women simply can't do, and there are fetishes and other things that only other men understand/can fulfill, and women either can't do/fulfill, and even if they could women wouldn't want to do.Other than facial hair, there isn't anything a man can bring to the event that a woman can't. Furthermore, claiming that all women won't do something that you want them to or can't "understand" only shows a blatant sexist attitude, and a total lack of communication skills on your part.


Also who is to say that oral sex is expected in a "str8" relationship? I know many heterosexuals who either don't like to give or receieve oral sex and just prefer anal/vaginal sex. Anyway that's not what I meant when I wrote about hetero relationships.Yes, not all heteros do oral. That's beside the point. Reading comprehension obviously isn't your strong point. I'm not going to repeat it because you still wouldn't get it, and the vast majority reading this thread did get it the first time.



It's not your fault that you can't fall in love with men and that you're not as sexually attracted to them as you are with women; but I gaurentee you that if you could fall in love with men and were more sexually attracted to men than you are, you'd understand how even the worst oral sex between men is far better, it can be spiritual in ways that a woman giving fellatio to a man never will be, and it's far superior to that of a woman giving a man (in her mind) "excellent" fellatio. End of story!Ah yes, attack something else about me that has nothing to do with the subject. I'm not a REAL bisexual in your mind so I don't have any basis for judgment? Get a grip.

It's been quite obvious from your other posts here through time that you are a misogynist. You prefer relationships with men because you want your relationships to be with equals, something you could never accept a woman to be.

If YOU were capable of having a healthy relationship with a woman, one with mutual respect and love, maybe you'd find she'd do some of those things you say women won't do.

onewhocares
Oct 28, 2008, 11:36 PM
The only thing a person needs to be good at oral is to pay attention to what the recipient's body is doing and the DESIRE to do it well. End of story. You don't need a penis to be good at sucking cock and you don't need a pussy to be good at eating one.

Thanks Allbi..I could not agree with you more. Technique is divine and yes there is much to be said for it....variety and speciality. But what I hear most often from lovers is that I have such a sense of DESIRE for the man I am with and the intensity and passion that I have to please them and then in turn to please me have made the time that we have shared so intense.

As far as eating pussy is concerned...I have only done it once and had it done once and I do not feel that it is sufficient to compare. But I have never met a man whom I did not enjoy or who did not desire and want plain ole me.

Belle

csrakate
Oct 28, 2008, 11:36 PM
Sorry I don't find this hot at all.

Men don't need any help learning how to suck cock, because it's just something that we know how to do very well, and even the worst fellatio from a man is better than excellent fellatio from a woman.
Gee DiamondDog...I never tire of hearing this lame argument from you but you forgot the part about how you would rather a man scrape his teeth across your cock than receive oral from a woman! It's quite obvious from your posts that you prefer sex with men and only enjoy women when you are dominating them in an S/M scenario, so it's no wonder why you have never experienced the mouth of a loving and giving woman on your cock!!! Just as you eschew labels, I for one am tired of how you continually label women as incompetent when it comes to pleasing a man sexually.



Her vagina itself can never thoroughly pleasure your penis like a man's hands & mouth, if he's good & knows from experience. This is just reality.

This is YOUR reality and while you have every right to believe such a thing, you can in no way state that it's that way across the board for everyone!




It's not your fault that you can't fall in love with men and that you're not as sexually attracted to them as you are with women; but I gaurentee you that if you could fall in love with men and were more sexually attracted to men than you are, you'd understand how even the worst oral sex between men is far better, it can be spiritual in ways that a woman giving fellatio to a man never will be, and it's far superior to that of a woman giving a man (in her mind) "excellent" fellatio. End of story!

You challenge allbi to fall in love with a man and discover the true pleasures of fellatio, well I could suggest the same to you in regards to falling in love with a woman. The love between a man and a woman can result in some fabulous sex and yes, even fellatio can be just as "spiritual" as you claim it is with men. And I don't need my mind to tell me that it's excellent...I know it is when I see the look on my husband's face each and every time!



Anyway I have no need for such instruction from a woman or anyone at all; but I'm naturally gifted at this art, as many can attest.

If you have no need for instruction, then good for you...but someone who toots his own horn as you are doing is very often is the only one giving such praises. You certainly have every right to your opinion, but don't force your opinions when it comes to something that you obviously have very little personal knowledge or understanding of....a mutually satisfying and loving experience between a man and a woman!

bigredpigdriver
Oct 29, 2008, 12:33 AM
I read all your post on this and shame on you...you try and make yourself sound like you are gods gift to mens cock...well honey my man was good when he start and I showed him some tricks since I have suck a few more then him..now our playmates get 2 mouths that know how to give a real great head...dont even get me into S&M Dom scene, because we are into high protocol lifestyle and have a few toys (M&F) that we have had to train...You need to understand that sex is fun, so smile and stop knocking others fun...:soapbox:


Sorry I don't find this hot at all.

Men don't need any help learning how to suck cock, because it's just something that we know how to do very well, and even the worst fellatio from a man is better than excellent fellatio from a woman.

Yeah I know it's not PC to say that but it's true. It's just like how only a woman really knows how to give excellent oral sex to another woman better than a man does.

jem_is_bi
Oct 29, 2008, 1:46 AM
Sorry I don't find this hot at all.

Men don't need any help learning how to suck cock, because it's just something that we know how to do very well, and even the worst fellatio from a man is better than excellent fellatio from a woman.

Yeah I know it's not PC to say that but it's true. It's just like how only a woman really knows how to give excellent oral sex to another woman better than a man does.

YES!!!!! YES!!!
I agree, screw PC!!!

eddy10
Oct 29, 2008, 2:36 AM
At my ripe old age I have learned that you can always learn more than you now know. Even from someone you consider lower on the totem pole than you. A master can still learn from a student. Open your mind and you will be surprised what might cum in.

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Oct 29, 2008, 4:47 AM
LOl :bowdown: To Kate and Eddy10.
Its not the gender of the person giving the oral, its the Person Themselves that makes it the most wondrous and exciting. And, the BDSM lifestyle has nothing to Do with it., That may be a person's thing, and thats great combined with the oral pleasuring, but everyone's technique is diverse and varied.
Some of us girl can suck the chrome off a bumper, and its rumored that your cat can Quote "Suck the seeds out of a pickle and never break the skin" lol

Just because you feel that a woman isnt talented enough for you, it just means you havent had the Right woman. lol'
Cat

innaminka
Oct 29, 2008, 5:45 AM
Who cares?
I thnk anytime anyone of either gender who is entranced enough with you to put their mouth around/into your genitals should be thanked and certainly not rated.
Oral sex is such a wonderful human activity, just lie back and enjoy it!! :tong:

curious44
Oct 29, 2008, 8:33 AM
Received plenty from both guys and gals. Never had a bad BJ. Some were better than others but never had a bad one.
Sorry DiamondDog, the best ones came from my wife. :)

darkeyes
Oct 29, 2008, 9:03 AM
Who cares?
I thnk anytime anyone of either gender who is entranced enough with you to put their mouth around/into your genitals should be thanked and certainly not rated.
Oral sex is such a wonderful human activity, just lie back and enjoy it!! :tong:
Agree wiv the last bit Innaminka.. but not rate em?? God... wer wud me journals b if me had neva dun that??? Afta yas laid bak an enjoyed.. then ya rate.. memba... go 'ome..an rite it all down for posterity.. tee hee:tong: .. an it don haff bring bak memries a few years down the line.. as well as giveya a few giggles..if not belly laffs.. o yea.. an sumtimes a lil embarrassment ...

A lil jog a the memry always handy jus in case ya bout 2 make big mistake...:bigrin:

bicuck4u6inch
Oct 29, 2008, 11:00 AM
Well, I do not mean to brag, but I have been told I have an amazing way with cocks...and I will be giving lessons to shameless (if he wants)..hehehe..as if that wonderful mouth needs any lessons...
It is exciting to show someone how I do it, but I do not divulge all my secrets, for if I did, then what I do wouldn't be special anymore would it??
Would love to tag team with him on another bi male...that would be the ultimate...besides watching him with the male that is...
AngelRose

Being shown how to suck a cock with a beloved woman is my hottest fantasy.:love1:

And if and when my virgin ass is violated,:yikes2: when the cock goes in for the first time I need a loving womans face right there in my face to tell me to not tighten up and enjoy......

At a glory hole with a woman is the only way to suck cock....well not the only way, but certainly one of the most enjoyable. When she says, "come on honey take it like this, now you do it". Love a woman who sucks a strange cock with her hubby or boyfriend....:love1:

chulainn2
Oct 29, 2008, 8:48 PM
Well I'm not going to debate who sucks better, a woman or a man, experienced or not. All I have to say is that the worst blowjob I have had was still darn good and I'm so grateful.

thpj3
Oct 29, 2008, 9:08 PM
Lessons or not sharing cock with a good gal is GREAT!!!

thpj3
Oct 29, 2008, 9:11 PM
Lessons or not sharing cock with a good gal is GREAT!!

DiamondDog
Oct 30, 2008, 2:47 PM
Ah, yes, you can claim it isn't bullshit but that doesn't make it true. Nor does your claim that you've had more men go down on you. I could just as easily claim that you don't know shit about it either since you've probably never had a woman go down on you.

Other than facial hair, there isn't anything a man can bring to the event that a woman can't. Furthermore, claiming that all women won't do something that you want them to or can't "understand" only shows a blatant sexist attitude, and a total lack of communication skills on your part.

Yes, not all heteros do oral. That's beside the point. Reading comprehension obviously isn't your strong point. I'm not going to repeat it because you still wouldn't get it, and the vast majority reading this thread did get it the first time.

Ah yes, attack something else about me that has nothing to do with the subject. I'm not a REAL bisexual in your mind so I don't have any basis for judgment? Get a grip.

It's been quite obvious from your other posts here through time that you are a misogynist. You prefer relationships with men because you want your relationships to be with equals, something you could never accept a woman to be.

If YOU were capable of having a healthy relationship with a woman, one with mutual respect and love, maybe you'd find she'd do some of those things you say women won't do.

Nope LMAO men and women have a lot more differences when it comes to giving fellatio than just facial hair.

LMAO men just give better head and love to do it unlike women who don't know what they're doing when it comes to giving fellatio, and what I said is the truth about how the worst head from a guy would be better than excellent fellatio from a woman.

Let's not forget how men and women smell/taste different either. Men's bodies, armpits, tongues, anuses, taste/smell different than a woman's and even the flesh of their genitals tastes different in your mouth.

When I'm with a man/men I don't want someone that's all smooth and smells like a candy dish! :D Also, men have knowledge of what it's like to have a penis so even if they're into giving oral sex they know how to do it better than a woman can and they know all the right areas that women don't know about! ;)

Stop throwing non-sequiturs into your replies. Many people here including yourself aren't good at reading comprehension either. ;)

I could always throw one in and assume that when you wrote:
But many, many perform oral on MOOS that don't really want to because it's expected in a str8 relationship.

That you're saying that women (het women especially) don't like to give men oral sex and only do so because they think that they're expected to.

When I originally wrote this: I honor that some hetero relationships are genuinely intense & profound, only most often those too are distorted by the social, cultural substrate.

I meant that heteronormativity is ubiquitous and how many heterosexuals get married/reproduce/add to the already way too high world population not because they want to but because they think that they have to.

Vitt wrote an excellent post about the differences between men and women and normally I don't go for the whole "men are from mars, women are from venus" stuff, or stereotypical ideas about gender/gender roles but she did bring up some interesting points in her post about how women percieve sex/attraction/etc.

Also I didn't mean in my post at all that you're not "bisexual enough" in my mind. Are your own insecurities showing through or something? ;)

LOL Why should I even personally want, or be expected to want/strive for, or one day have your typical monogamous/heterosexual seeming relationship with a woman?

Thankfully I'm not forced into such constraints of heteronormativity when it comes to relationships, and I'm rather agnostic when it comes to such things, and I’m not heterophobic either.

I'd just wind up going crazy if I were forced into, or if I was in a closed relationship with a woman and it wouldn't be fair to try to pretend that I could try to be monogamous with a woman since I'm not sexually attracted to them all the time.

LMAO what's with you playing the the "you're a misogynist" card? :rolleyes:

I certainly don't hate women, think of women as being subhuman or less than men, and I do think of women as being my equals even if I'm not always sexually attracted to them and just because I don't worship their gender or the ground they walk upon (this itself is a form of gender inequality) like many desperate men here seem to do it doesn't make me a misogynist. I have been told this by a hetero male friend who doesn't understand queer men and thinks that because I'm more into men when it comes to attraction/romance that it's because I "hate women", yet he constantly talks about how women are bitches and hoes and how much he'd love to have in his words "a bitch as a fuckbuddy who would constantly let me dump my loads in her!". I could repeat other things I've heard from true misogynists but I'm not going to do that here.

What I meant about what mostly all women not wanting to do when they have sex with men has to do with what's called man-scent and licking clean armpits, and while not even all men are into this, I have queer male friends who share this fetish with me and we all agree that almost all women would not want to do this and how most women wouldn't be into it or the natural clean smell of a man's ripe pits, or 1-2 day old clean musk which are staples in gay sex/and the homoerotic, and are big fetishes for lots of men.

There are other fetishes too but they’ve got nothing to do with scat or anything like that and believe me when I say that most women don’t have them and if they were in a relationship with a bi man who had these fetishes they wouldn’t want to act on them.

There are other fetishes that deal with men's bodies that only another man can fulfill. Foreskin anyone? Even if I were to meet a bio woman who could sometimes be a drag king as a passable man and had taken some T to deepen her voice and who tried to fulfill male oriented fetishes it wouldn't be the same as being with an actual biological man. I'd be fine with being with a Transguy and there have been some transwomen who have turned my head too.

At this point in my adult life I have relationships and sex with men because while in the past I have had healthy mutually exclusive respectful relationships with women I'm not as sexually or romantically attracted to women as I once was.

I don't see the point in entering into a relationship with a woman now and trying to be in a monogamous relationship or even an open one when I'm a lot more sexually and romantically attracted to men and while I am attracted to some women it's not fair to her to try to be monogamous since we both know it's not going to happen, and I'll just pine for men and romance for men and probably wind up in a nasty break up/divorce.

If you need an example of this how you'd personally relate to it would be like for you to try to have a boyfriend/husband. Before you think or assume that I'm attacking you personally let's face it, I'm a lot more into men when it comes to sexual attraction/romance than you are.

DiamondDog
Oct 30, 2008, 2:55 PM
Gee DiamondDog...I never tire of hearing this lame argument from you but you forgot the part about how you would rather a man scrape his teeth across your cock than receive oral from a woman! It's quite obvious from your posts that you prefer sex with men and only enjoy women when you are dominating them in an S/M scenario, so it's no wonder why you have never experienced the mouth of a loving and giving woman on your cock!!! Just as you eschew labels, I for one am tired of how you continually label women as incompetent when it comes to pleasing a man sexually.

This is YOUR reality and while you have every right to believe such a thing, you can in no way state that it's that way across the board for everyone!

You challenge allbi to fall in love with a man and discover the true pleasures of fellatio, well I could suggest the same to you in regards to falling in love with a woman. The love between a man and a woman can result in some fabulous sex and yes, even fellatio can be just as "spiritual" as you claim it is with men. And I don't need my mind to tell me that it's excellent...I know it is when I see the look on my husband's face each and every time!

If you have no need for instruction, then good for you...but someone who toots his own horn as you are doing is very often is the only one giving such praises. You certainly have every right to your opinion, but don't force your opinions when it comes to something that you obviously have very little personal knowledge or understanding of....a mutually satisfying and loving experience between a man and a woman!

Again you're speaking out of ignorance, like you usually do on the subjects of bondage/SM, erotic power exchange, and other things I’ve written about.

What's wrong with eschewing sexual labels? I don't really fit into one of them, many others don't either, and they're going by the wayside as it is and less people are using them, if you've been paying attention! ;)

You don't know a lot about bondage/SM or the roles that are done in such relationships, or why such roles are done.

I suggest that you educate yourself before you write even more ignorant and foolish statements about a subject you know nothing about and haven’t practiced that much of.

Yes BDSM is sex, just as much as a penis penetrating a vagina is, and even one's fetishes and acting on them can be sex.

Your ignorance doesn't even warrant a reply like this. I will say this though; you don't seem to judge other men or other people here who prefer doing bondage/SM with only men or with both genders, so please don't do the same with me.

Yes I do tend to naturally fall into the roles of Dominant and Master. I also tend to attract submissive/service oriented/kink curious men/women/trans people, and what's so wrong about giving people what they want when it's all safe/sane/consensual and safe words are established? Just because you have no desire for sex that isn't vanilla don't judge others who do happen to enjoy it. :)

Secondly who are you to judge consenting adults of any gender who happen to do BDSM/erotic power exchange, or happen to enjoy or even highly prefer it instead of vanilla sex?

Also what's so wrong about letting women be submissive to a dominant partner in consenting erotic power exchange? Haven't you ever heard of personal choice? You realize that when people are submissive during BDSM it's because it's their choice and they want to be. You are a feminist like I am, right?

There's a reason why I don't write about my own personal life on here at all or my personal relationships with other people. It has nothing to do with being closeted, secretive, or discrete and it has everything to do with wrong assumptions by total ignorant strangers on the internet.

I never said I was God's gift to giving men fellatio. :rolleyes: Even other men who have posted here in this thread agree that if you're a bi/gay man you don't need instruction on how to suck cock since it all comes naturally.

Heterosex (sex between one man and one woman) may be spiritual but it's not as powerful or as spiritual as bisex (like a MMF 3 way) or homosexual sex that's with two or more men in an all male situation/environment where the sexual energy and camaraderie between men multiplies!

Then there are the meditative states and states that mimic psychedelics and spirituality that myself and other men have gotten into while giving/getting/69'ing with men that I've never got from doing any of that with a woman at all.

it seems totally natural how a man's mouth & a penis fit together & connect as if--dare I say it?--the are made for each other!

In fact, my feeling is that humans’ sexuality has not been primarily about reproduction for a long time. Particularly now, when the planet is so overpopulated with humans & in rather dire straits, I feel men must be encouraged to share erotic pleasure for its own sake with fellow men. Men really want a lot more touch, more intense physical, erotic ecstasy than they are getting in most cases.

Men will never get this raw physical, erotic pleasure they hunger for, that need not be bound to emotional commitment with women. Though the male/female thing is a different dance that I also honor . . . until men become better balanced & less fearful of fellow men, that will always be most problematical.

Actually yes I do have experience in and knowledge about a mutually satisfying romantic relationship between a myself and a woman. No I'm not the only one who says I'm very good at giving oral sex. Do you want all the men/women I've dated/had relationships with to somehow vouch for me? What would the point of that be?

allbimyself
Oct 30, 2008, 3:14 PM
Nope LMAO men and women have a lot more differences when it comes to giving fellatio than just facial hair. Don't be stupid. We are talking about a specific physical, sexual act.


LMAO men just give better head and love to do it unlike women who don't know what they're doing when it comes to giving fellatio, and what I said is the truth about how the worst head from a guy would be better than excellent fellatio from a woman.No, it is not the truth, it is your OPINION.


Which has nothing to do with ability to suck cock. Everything you've just listed only relates to a gender preference. You as a gay man prefer the scent, taste, etc. of a man. Nothing wrong with that. However, it has no bearing on the ability to perform fellatio.

[quote]When I'm with a man/men I don't want someone that's all smooth and smells like a candy dish! :DAgain, this only relates to a preference in a sexual partner. It has nothing to do with ability.
Also, men have knowledge of what it's like to have a penis so even if they're into giving oral sex they know how to do it better than a woman can and they know all the right areas that women don't know about! ;) Please! EVERYONE is different in how they want to be pleased orally. No two men are the same, no two women are the same. One man may think you are great at it, another may think you are horrible if you use the same technique with him. The way to be great with everyone (besides the desire to please) is to gauge and respond to the recipients responses to what you are doing. ANYONE can do that regardless of whether or not they have the same equipment.


Stop throwing non-sequiturs into your replies. Many people here including yourself aren't good at reading comprehension either. ;) What non-sequitur? Do you even know what that means?


I could always throw one in and assume that when you wrote:

That you're saying that women (het women especially) don't like to give men oral sex and only do so because they think that they're expected to.Never said that. Obviously I didn't or more whole argument would be moot. Maybe it isn't your reading comprehension that's at fault, maybe you just lack the ability to think logically.


When I originally wrote this: I honor that some hetero relationships are genuinely intense & profound, only most often those too are distorted by the social, cultural substrate.

I meant that heteronormativity is ubiquitous and how many heterosexuals get married/reproduce/add to the already way too high world population not because they want to but because they think that they have to.

Vitt wrote an excellent post about the differences between men and women and normally I don't go for the whole "men are from mars, women are from venus" stuff, or stereotypical ideas about gender/gender roles but she did bring up some interesting points in her post about how women percieve sex/attraction/etc.[quote]All of which has nothing to do with the topic of discussion. Men and women are different. Some women (even str8 women) don't like sucking cock. HOWEVER, that is SOME WOMEN, not all.

[quote]Also I didn't mean in my post at all that you're not "bisexual enough" in my mind. Are your own insecurities showing through or something? ;)Not at all. I'm quite comfortable with who I am and with my sexuality. You are the misogynistic gay man that seems to have insecurities with his sexuality.


LOL Why should I even personally want, or be expected to want/strive for, or one day have your typical monogamous/heterosexual seeming relationship with a woman? Never claimed you did. Again your (il)logic fails you. The point was you are incapable of having that type of relationship with a woman, so have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE about what a woman is capable of providing sexually.


Thankfully I'm not forced into such constraints of heteronormativity when it comes to relationships, and I'm rather agnostic when it comes to such things, and I’m not heterophobic either.Good for you. You are misogynistic and gynophobic, tho. No one says you HAVE to be in any particular type of relationship. Again, the point is you are incapable of having that type of relationship with a woman, so have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE about what a woman is capable of providing sexually. (Maybe repetition will aid your slow mental processes)


I'd just wind up going crazy if I were forced into, or if I was in a closed relationship with a woman and it wouldn't be fair to try to pretend that I could try to be monogamous with a woman since I'm not sexually attracted to them all the time. More evidence to my point.


LMAO what's with you playing the the "you're a misogynist" card? :rolleyes:If it acts like a duck and quacks like a duck...


I certainly don't hate women, think of women as being subhuman or less than men, and I do think of women as being my equals even if I'm not always sexually attracted to them and just because I don't worship their gender or the ground they walk upon (this itself is a form of gender inequality) like many desperate men here seem to do it doesn't make me a misogynist. I have been told this by a hetero male friend who doesn't understand queer men and thinks that because I'm more into men when it comes to attraction/romance that it's because I "hate women", yet he constantly talks about how women are bitches and hoes and how much he'd love to have in his words "a bitch as a fuckbuddy who would constantly let me dump my loads in her!". I could repeat other things I've heard from true misogynists but I'm not going to do that here.So your friend is a misogynist, too. I don't label you that because of who you are, I label you that because of what YOU have SAID in posts on this forum.


What I meant about what mostly all women not wanting to do when they have sex with men has to do with what's called man-scent and licking clean armpits, and while not even all men are into this, I have queer male friends who share this fetish with me and we all agree that almost all women would not want to do this and how most women wouldn't be into it or the natural clean smell of a man's ripe pits, or 1-2 day old clean musk which are staples in gay sex/and the homoerotic, and are big fetishes for lots of men.Which has fuck all to do with blow jobs. And how many women have you actually had sex with to know "what mostly all women not wanting to do?"


There are other fetishes too but they’ve got nothing to do with scat or anything like that and believe me when I say that most women don’t have them and if they were in a relationship with a bi man who had these fetishes they wouldn’t want to act on them. Again, this is a preference for an act that has nothing to do with oral sex.


There are other fetishes that deal with men's bodies that only another man can fulfill. Foreskin anyone? Even if I were to meet a bio woman who could sometimes be a drag king as a passable man and had taken some T to deepen her voice and who tried to fulfill male oriented fetishes it wouldn't be the same as being with an actual biological man. I'd be fine with being with a Transguy and there have been some transwomen who have turned my head too.These past few paragraphs you have descended into a lecture on why you prefer to be intimate with men. Again, this has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH A PERSON'S ABILITY TO GIVE GOOD HEAD!


At this point in my adult life I have relationships and sex with men because while in the past I have had healthy mutually exclusive respectful relationships with women I'm not as sexually or romantically attracted to women as I once was.Sheesh, you just don't get it do you? No one here gives a fuck about why you prefer men. The issue is that your opinion that ANY man can suck a cock better than ANY woman is complete BS and is confounded by your total lack of ability to be in a mutually respecting relationship with a woman.


I don't see the point in entering into a relationship with a woman now and trying to be in a monogamous relationship or even an open one when I'm a lot more sexually and romantically attracted to men and while I am attracted to some women it's not fair to her to try to be monogamous since we both know it's not going to happen, and I'll just pine for men and romance for men and probably wind up in a nasty break up/divorce.

If you need an example of this how you'd personally relate to it would be like for you to try to have a boyfriend/husband. Before you think or assume that I'm attacking you personally let's face it, I'm a lot more into men when it comes to sexual attraction/romance than you are.Which has fuck all to do with the topic at hand.

csrakate
Oct 30, 2008, 3:26 PM
DiamondDog,
It's not so much whether or not you are truly a misogynist that bothers most of us, it is the way that you state your opinions without regard to the beliefs or experiences of others. You continue to debate issues using situations that affect YOU and YOUR sexuality choices and while that is your right to do, you need not do so in such a manner where you demean or put down women. You say you give excellent head and your partners love it! That is wonderful and I am happy for you. But that does not entitle you to put down women or criticize our abilities. There is no way you can ever say that your expertise excels over mine when your lifestyle and partner choices are so different from mine. So what if I prefer not to lick my husband's armpits...that's not something that he necessarily wants me to do. But I can promise you that if it were something that he did desire, I would most certainly give it a shot and the mere fact that it might give him pleasure would heighten my pleasure as well. As a loving and giving couple, we do things that are mutually satisfying and we grow together through our desire to give and receive pleasure.

And since this thread is about giving blow jobs, YES..maybe I wasn't so hot at it when I first started so many years ago, but I was also quite young and rather inexperienced about it, as well as many other things. Over time I learned to relax and let desire, love and pure lust take control. I learned to take hints from the responses of my husband as well as to pay attention to the reactions of his cock. I began to focus my attention on every nuance...the feel...the taste...and doing so led me to discover the true joy of having it in my mouth, how every flick of my tongue and movement of my mouth turned him on and how very turned on it made me while I was doing it. I'm not asking to have a "suck-off" competition with you...I am sure you will always consider your abilities to outshine my own, but there is no way you can ever say that I have not pleased my husband or that he would be far better serviced by a man.

I know men know their cocks...I know men know what to do with them. But I also know that but I also know that women can learn to treat a cock as their own and they are every bit as capable as a man to give it pleasure. And as for your earlier statements about women licking pussy better than men, while I have never had the experience of receiving oral sex from a woman, there is no way in hell I would ever be able to criticize the efforts of my husband. If there is a better way to do it than his, I am not sure I would survive the outcome. His attention and focus on me has left me exhausted from multiple orgasms, almost to the point I have to beg him to stop, but of course I don't. LOL! So while he may not have a pussy himself, he sure as hell knows how to pleasure one!

I implore you to try and see things a little differently. Oral sex really doesn't need to be a competition between the genders as to who does what better. It is a shared experience that cannot be measured nor does it need to be measured. It's a personal thing between two people and it just doesn't mean squat as to what gender does it better. Try to temper your words, DiamondDog and I assure you that you will find yourself better understood and less likely to receive so many responses that accuse you of being something you say you are not.

Kate

Ritchie 48
Oct 30, 2008, 3:49 PM
How hard is it to say to your mate , i like this , i like that and i prefer this way , i taught my wife what i like and how i like it and i learned from her the art of pleasing a woman , talking is not a difficult thing . Needless to say , though videos and talking to other people she became an expert at many ways to please me waaay beyond any expectations i ever had ! She could make me beg to cum and have me explode till i was fully drained . Whew ! i just shivered thinking about it !

hudson9
Oct 30, 2008, 3:59 PM
Kate -- as usual, you show your ability to be calm, sensible, and perceptive. When contentious issues come up, it is important to state one's own opinions respectfully, and listen to others' opinions and experiences with an open mind. We may or may not be swayed in our opinion, but we should always be careful to differentiate opinion from fact. We should be careful of projecting personal experience into universal truths, especially in the absence of any objective data, or the different experience of someone else.

And, we should be careful that, shall I say "energetic" language does not alienate or offend others and propel discussion on something that should not be an especially contentious issue, into one.

:2cents:

Wishing everyone peace, love, and good oral sex... wherever it comes from... (!)

Doggie_Wood
Oct 30, 2008, 5:15 PM
Um what?

I'm not attracted to older/geriatric women at all, certainly not women who don't have any teeth, and I don't have incest fantasies about my grandparents at all nor do I desire sex with any relatives and my grandparents don't wear dentures.

What I wrote is the truth even if yourself and others don't want to believe it.

Women just don't know how to please a man as well as other men do when it comes to masturbatory sex, oral sex, and probably even anal sex as well since toys don't compare to a real penis, a woman doesn't have a penis, and a woman doesn't have a prostate or know what a prostate orgasm is like.

Only a man understands what it's like to have a penis or use it, and it's like how a man doesn't understand what it's like to have a clitoris, what a clitoral orgasm is like vs. a g-spot orgasm, as well as another woman does.

Her vagina itself can never thoroughly pleasure your penis like a man's hands & mouth, if he's good & knows from experience. This is just reality.



DD - who said anything about older/geriatric women - I certainly didn't, but you did. HAHA:cutelaugh And "granny" was her nickname because she wore dentures and could take them out when biving a blow job (which was extrordinary). And she was not (nor could she have been) my grandmother. Again, no one said anything about incest either.
Get a grip on your assumations.

Now, what you say may be the truth in some cases or moreover your own situations, but not all, and most certainly not mine. You are not in my shoes (so to speak) and therefore, cannot speak for me or my views.
You have the right to speak for yourself and yourself only, no one else.
I have had very memorable BJs from both men and women and I can only rate one male up there with granny. The two of them must have studied 'cock sucking 101' together. Both made me cum in under 5 minutes.
Ahhhhhhh!!! The memories ............. :rolleyes:

:doggie:

darkeyes
Oct 30, 2008, 5:16 PM
Hav an do often joke an giggle bout mens lakka expertise wen it cums 2 lotsa things in mattas sexual.. mayb 2 much so don deny that..but mosly its jus that.. jokin an gigglin outa gender rivalry is a time honoured past-time wich me luffs dearly.. an it has..moren 1ce led me 2 b accused a bein a man hater.. wich is of course miles off the mark.. don need 2 spend the nite wiv guys 2 like em..jus like me don need 2 fancy a girl 2 like 'er..

But this brill givin head thingie..an who dus it best an who makes the best teacher an so on is all cobblers... DD's claim 2 b wondaful an all so natural is all very well, an it mite well be a fact a life..an if so gud luk 2 'im.. but hav me own views on blow jobs wich don zactly match up wiv 'is cos me standin (or kneelin) from a diff perspective..

Fact is ther r sum of us who can't give decent blow's.. who r no gud at it an neva will b able 2 tease outa a guy that ecstacy for wich 'e reely craves.. an wich women hav striven 2 give em for ages past.. it then becums perfunctory an tho mos guys like it it don set the heather on fire for 'em.. simlarly lotsa guys cudn give a woman decent cunnilingus 2 save ther lives.. that dus not preclude the fact that lotsa guys r ratha gud at it.. the fact that me PREFERS women wen it cums 2 oral sex is relevant.. always hav... cos from MY pointa view.. they r betta at it.. but am mature enuff 2 kno thats as much outa me own preferences as it is a biological, psychological or ne otha kind a fact.. equally me knos that lotsa women r no gud at it for lotsa diff reasons.. lots won even attempt it, jus as they won attempt sukkin a guys cock... its a turn off for em an we havta accept that we not all entirely free in our sexual mores... the restraints a society an its acceptance a wot is as is not nice moren plays its part..

DD makes a claim bout men as teachers.. an in a way he dus hav a point.. from HIS pointa view.. from his personal experience an from wot 'e feels an thinks as a sexual human bein... but 'is claim can no more b accepted as gospel than if me sed women only r gud at given women gud oral sex... we do kno wot we like.. an wen we hav sex we put wot we like inta practice an wen havin sex wiv anotha of our own sex we use in part wot we like wen teasin the best outa our sexual partner.. but sumtimes our partner for woteva reason dus not like wot we r doin..no matta how expertly brilliantly we do it... cos jus as men an women r different from each otha..every woman is diff from every otha woman in 'er needs an wonts, as is every man diff from his peers...

So DD's claim is cobblers an is relevant 2 no 1 but 'imsel...even then is 2 subjective 2 mean very much... only peeps who kno the truth of 'is claim 2 b God's Gift 2 sex r 'is partners whoeva they may b.. 'is own opinion counts for no moren me own dus bout me.. me THINKS me is pretty gud in the sak..me THINKS me can giv me partner a gud time.. only thing me eva knos for sure is wen me has a gud time.. tho genrally ya can tell wenya partner has an all...an hav enuff vanity 2 b pretty sure thats the case.. but me don go bout braggin me so amazin that the world shud b worshippin at me feet... cos wot it all cums down 2 is not wot me thinks.. but those me has had me fun wiv.. ther opinion is wot mattas..thers is the ONLY opinion wich mattas...

csrakate
Oct 30, 2008, 5:49 PM
DiamondDog,
I was obviously typing my above post to you as you were writing one to me. I left the house right after I submitted my response, having taken a great deal of time to post in a respectful and conciliatory tone. Now I return home to find this nasty and condescending missive from you waiting for me. It is very obvious to me that when you feel your opinions are being attacked or when someone doesn't necessarily agree with your statements, you choose to read other meaning into what they say. After taking a bit of time to temper myself, I would like to take this opportunity to speak to certain things that you presume to know about me.

I also eschew labels, I never said anything to the contrary. While I am often labeled as "straight" I prefer to consider myself "sexually open" and still on a journey to discover more about myself and my sexuality. I have NEVER stated that I found BDSM to be repulsive nor have I ever sat in judgment of those who enjoy it. If a person enjoys such activities, who am I to judge, much less put down. The ONLY reason I ever mention BDSM in regards to you is that while you profess to know so much about the abilities of women in regards to sex, you, yourself, have stated that the only time that you enjoy women is in a submissive role. That hardly gives you the first hand experience to sit in judgment of the sexual activities between a man and a woman, much less criticize women about their sexual abilities. I am not ignorant nor am I closed minded. I have never claimed to be an expert on anything and I only speak about what I know of personally. Honestly, I don't give a damn what you do in your personal life and I would be the last person to put you down because of it. You, on the other hand, continue to put me down and make assumptions about my private life that you have no way of knowing. I abhor stereotyping people and I specifically hate when those that do, choose to make blanket statements because of those stereotypes. You can deny it all you wish, but you obviously have some sort of bias against women and your many posts reek of stereotyping them. You have definitely stereotyped me. How do you surmise that I am into "vanilla" sex? Is it by virtue of the fact that I am a "straight", middle aged, suburban housewife and mother and grandmother? Just because I prefer to keep the details about my sex life private, it doesn't give you the right to draw conclusions as to what takes place behind closed doors.



Your ignorance doesn't even warrant a reply like this. I will say this though; you don't seem to judge other men or other people here who prefer doing bondage/SM with only men or with both genders, so please don't do the same with me.

DiamondDog, I have no problem with you or with your sexual practices. Actually I don't give a rat's ass if you like being hog tied and hung from the rafters or whether you prefer having sex missionary style. To each his own and if you have found something that brings you pleasure then go for it. I am more than happy for you. What you do in your private life with your partners is your business and your business alone. All I am asking is for the same respect from you.



Heterosex (sex between one man and one woman) may be spiritual but it's not as powerful or as spiritual as bisex (like a MMF 3 way) or homosexual sex that's with two or more men in an all male situation/environment where the sexual energy and camaraderie between men multiplies!

Then there are the meditative states and states that mimic psychedelics and spirituality that myself and other men have gotten into while giving/getting/69'ing with men that I've never got from doing any of that with a woman at all.

it seems totally natural how a man's mouth & a penis fit together & connect as if--dare I say it?--the are made for each other!

In fact, my feeling is that humans’ sexuality has not been primarily about reproduction for a long time. Particularly now, when the planet is so overpopulated with humans & in rather dire straits, I feel men must be encouraged to share erotic pleasure for its own sake with fellow men. Men really want a lot more touch, more intense physical, erotic ecstasy than they are getting in most cases.

Once again you are speaking YOUR opinion and while I honor your right to do so, don't try to use this argument to further negate the way myself or others live our lives. I am happy you find bisex so fulfilling. I certainly hope all people find a way of life that suits them as much as yours suits you. But just because it works for you doesn't mean it is proof positive that it's the only way.

Once again I am asking you to open up your mind a bit. Don't be so quick to judge and by all means remember that your opinion is merely that...an opinion that you hold fast to and truly believe. You cannot expect people to always agree with you and when you attempt to force your beliefs, especially in the form of the diatribes that you have posted, it will only make you seem bitter and hateful towards others.

Kate

ladydelanie
Oct 30, 2008, 6:35 PM
Kate...Allbi......My dear friends......I have been watching this post since day one....You know, me being a woman that loves men (one especially)...and all that is attched to them....:tongue:

I would like say to both of you....and to all of you, actually.......BRAVO!!.....
Can't we all be just exactly who we are and all get along.....

Come on DD we really are a fun group :grouphug:!


Ladyd :)

BreeIsMe
Oct 30, 2008, 7:53 PM
I am sorry, DD, but what you are writing sounds like an inferiority complex. There are both men and women who are very good at oral sex with men and the same applies to oral sex with women. There are also both men and women who really (pardon the pun) suck at it, don't like it and don't even want to have anything to do with it. No one is going to take you seriously if you keep insisting on this ridiculous position..

Bree


Um what?

I'm not attracted to older/geriatric women at all, certainly not women who don't have any teeth, and I don't have incest fantasies about my grandparents at all nor do I desire sex with any relatives and my grandparents don't wear dentures.

What I wrote is the truth even if yourself and others don't want to believe it.

Women just don't know how to please a man as well as other men do when it comes to masturbatory sex, oral sex, and probably even anal sex as well since toys don't compare to a real penis, a woman doesn't have a penis, and a woman doesn't have a prostate or know what a prostate orgasm is like.

Only a man understands what it's like to have a penis or use it, and it's like how a man doesn't understand what it's like to have a clitoris, what a clitoral orgasm is like vs. a g-spot orgasm, as well as another woman does.

Her vagina itself can never thoroughly pleasure your penis like a man's hands & mouth, if he's good & knows from experience. This is just reality.

Annika L has written about how only other women really know how to give excellent oral sex to women and I agree with this and nobody flipped out at her posts about this or when Darkeyes has written this.

Only a man really understand a penis. Plus probably only another woman really gets a clit. I honor that some hetero relationships are genuinely intense & profound, only most often those too are distorted by the social, cultural substrate.

_Joe_
Oct 30, 2008, 8:50 PM
Boy, I never actually gave thought to this, because I doubt the opportunity would ever present itself.

However it's not so much as a woman showing a man how to suck cock, but the whole sharing a cock that sounds hot as hell. And you can't tell me that you know it all and there's nothing to TRY and learn ^^

stargazer
Nov 12, 2008, 10:02 AM
OMG Brenda that is so so hot.. I have had some experience with that teaching my husband my techniques and I must say I was totally turned on by it. And I know he loved it sharing that with him is so intimate. Especially the first few times.

Although I must say, we have been sharing a cock now for several months and now we give each other ideas and try them out together ... he does have some nice ones :tongue:

:bigrin:

bim4mmf
Nov 12, 2008, 10:41 AM
Well, I must say the best blowjob that i have ever gotten was from a woman. I do find the idea of sucking cock with a woman helping me vey hot. You can always learn new things no matter how long you have been doing it

csrakate
Nov 12, 2008, 11:06 AM
Although I must say, we have been sharing a cock now for several months and now we give each other ideas and try them out together ... he does have some nice ones :tongue::bigrin:

I think stargazer has said it all. A lot of controversy over this thread could have been avoided had the term "teaching" or "showing" been replaced with "sharing". Sharing and learning skills from one another sounds so much more erotic and sensual and is something that I am sure many of us would like to experience. We can always learn something new and unique from our partners the same way they can learn from us and it's far more pleasurable than making it a "who does it better" issue.:2cents:

Kate

greywanderer852
Nov 12, 2008, 12:08 PM
Never did that but it sounds exciting! I can always learn something new, never get enough education LOL! I have no issues with that my experiences have showed me that not all men know how to suck a cock right, some are too rough, some just don't know what the heck is going on. I'm always open to be taught new and ddifferent techniques and styles.
Any teachers out there willing to set up a study hall?????????????;)

skinflute
Nov 12, 2008, 5:15 PM
I'd love to be sucked off by a woman and watched by another woman. I think that is every man's sexual fantasy. Or being sucked by one woman, and sucking on the other woman's pussy. Great sexual pleasure can be shared by anyone who wants it and is open minded enough to find it. I just haven't had the pleasure of finding two women to share my sexual pleasures that way. I also have no objection to sucking on another guys peter alone or with his wife. Sexual pleasure to me is just that. I'd be thankful just to find it. If there is a woman who wants to give me blowjob lessons, please contact me. I'm ready.:tongue:

Brenda66
Nov 13, 2008, 9:34 AM
A lot of controversy over this thread could have been avoided had the term "teaching" or "showing" been replaced with "sharing". Sharing and learning skills from one another sounds so much more erotic and sensual and is something that I am sure many of us would like to experience. We can always learn something new and unique from our partners the same way they can learn from us and it's far more pleasurable than making it a "who does it better" issue.:2cents:

Kate

Thank You Kate, I am sorry if I created such controversy about the who should be "teaching" who. Stargazer has said it best I totally agree :bigrin::)

Thank you all for all of your comments :grouphug:

Brenda

Jaysonoi692
Nov 13, 2008, 11:36 AM
I would love a gal to teach me how her man likes to get his cock sucked .....and I would fight her all night long for it !!!
Am I the only woman, but I do find Teaching a man how to suck cock so exciting and even more so showing him!!!

Anyone else ??

Comments???

Brenda

russian3sum
Nov 13, 2008, 12:29 PM
Very hot! Honestly I think guys suck cock better than woman but the idea of a woman getting into to the point of wanting to show a guy how to suck cock is a big turn on! The thought of her grabbing the other cock and guiding me with her hand on the back of my head is very hot!

Personally I think the idea of a woman showing a guy how to get fucked is even hottier!

csrakate
Nov 13, 2008, 12:45 PM
Thank You Kate, I am sorry if I created such controversy about the who should be "teaching" who. Stargazer has said it best I totally agree :bigrin::)

Thank you all for all of your comments :grouphug:

Brenda
Brenda,
Please don't feel you're at fault for the controversy...you asked a very simple question that just got taken out of context and became something it shouldn't have been. So glad to see so many positive responses to your original question and glad it has been so well received.

Hugs,
Kate

Brenda66
Nov 13, 2008, 1:33 PM
[QUOTE=csrakate;115496]

Kate Thank You you are so sweet
:bigrin:

Brenda

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Nov 13, 2008, 2:56 PM
Hmmmmm, to tell you the truth, Diamond Dog's dialogues sound Awfully familiar. And the speech pattern rings a familiar bell. And some of the references made as well.......
And yes, the superior tone is evidently there as well. I dont care if you Are a Dom, a good Dom does not flaunt his supposed superiority and make people feel like some type of sub-species..Or make himself look like a bad Dom at the same time.
It doesnt matter who sucks better as long as it gets done! lol.
Lighten up.
Cat

Apleasureseeker
Nov 13, 2008, 4:47 PM
Am I the only woman, but I do find Teaching a man how to suck cock so exciting and even more so showing him!!!

Anyone else ??

Comments???

Brenda

Oh, Brenda, this is incredibly sexy! For me, as a mostly hetero, and dominant guy to have my bisexuality explosed and surrendered to in this way is incredibly exciting! You know you have my imagination jumping... From the moment you make me strip in front of the other men, and choose the man you want me to work with...I've only done this a few times before, and i don't thin i'm very good at it, yet. I wish everyonec couldn't see how much i want htis, but I have no way to hide my own erection... God, his cock is sooo big, and thick, even with the fosreskin pulled back. Brenda, do you think i can really get it all in? Deep? I WANT it all in my throat... I'm afraid of what happens when he comes, which is funny, since I've always insisted that the girls I feed swallow everything.... Ooh Brenda...what's happening.... Mmm.

Apleasureseeker
Nov 13, 2008, 4:59 PM
I think stargazer has said it all. A lot of controversy over this thread could have been avoided had the term "teaching" or "showing" been replaced with "sharing".
Kate

Phooey! People need to lighten up a bit, and not take everything so seriously. Now, the teacher-student relationship, especially in sex, is a dominance/submission rleationship. If one never plays with D/S, then they mmight not recognize it's a role playing issue. Its a very mild dominance relationship, and a lot of women enjoy when a man takes the lead or plays 'teacher' without realizing that it's a dominance thing. I think some guys who also don't realize it's a role-play get offended at the implied submission. In real life, however, everybody can teach someone about something, and every new social or sexual expereicne is anew learning expereince, so, hey, I'm up to be taught. One of the fun things about the student role, btw, is that the teacher has all the responsibility. I could suck and swallow a whole classroom and afterwards say, I didn't desire it--i was just doing what teacher said to. Did I do good, teacher?

Not2str8
Nov 14, 2008, 1:41 AM
Wow, I can't believe how much black screen-ink got devoted to this topic. I've always felt the other person's argument goes right out the window the moment they say "always" or "never". The world ain't all black and white. What may be reality for you ain't necessarily so for me. DD's point may be
generally true, but it is certainly not an absolute, as he attempts to claim. Men do have an certain advantage in having a penis, but frankly the best blowjob I ever got was from a woman. How interesting that someone who has never met me claims to know more about what I like than I do. Oh well. One thing I can say with certainty. More research on this topic is necessary, and I will not rest until I have personally resolved this dispute ! (Now accepting applications for Research Assistants.)

bibaconbits
Nov 14, 2008, 2:30 AM
i want to be shown how to suck a cock ..that would be sooo hot...have her tellme toswallow and everything!!!

12voltman59
Nov 14, 2008, 10:25 AM
All I will add to this discussion is to say to DD----you cannot make sweeping statements as you do---as others have noted-----there are women who are expert at giving fellatio and men who are as well----and women who don't know how to do it and men who don't---it really depends on the attitude of the person giving the joy!!

They don't have to have bring much actual knowledge or expertise to the "job"--they just have to bring some excitement and gusto for their "work"--and just keep the teeth away from sensitive areas!!! LOL The best way to learn how to fellate is on the job training, but getting some tips from someone who has experience---of any gender sure is a good thing!!!!

Diamond--stop making your sweeping proclamations about things-----the things you have experienced are your experiences--and that is all well and good for you since they are your experiences---but your way is not the only way----it does get tiring that you continually do this.

DiamondDog
Nov 14, 2008, 2:38 PM
All I will add to this discussion is to say to DD----you cannot make sweeping statements as you do---as others have noted-----there are women who are expert at giving fellatio and men who are as well----and women who don't know how to do it and men who don't---it really depends on the attitude of the person giving the joy!!

They don't have to have bring much actual knowledge or expertise to the "job"--they just have to bring some excitement and gusto for their "work"--and just keep the teeth away from sensitive areas!!! LOL The best way to learn how to fellate is on the job training, but getting some tips from someone who has experience---of any gender sure is a good thing!!!!

Diamond--stop making your sweeping proclamations about things-----the things you have experienced are your experiences--and that is all well and good for you since they are your experiences---but your way is not the only way----it does get tiring that you continually do this.

I'm not the only man who has written here in this thread about how men give far better oral sex than women can.

I'll tell you what, I won't put my pearls before swine anymore.

You can get all the mediocre and just plain bad oral sex from women that you want and I'll still be getting and giving the best oral sex to men that's free of ego games and spiritually transcends anything that a woman can only try to do to a man! ;)

krrptyc
Nov 14, 2008, 11:07 PM
uh-oh, I smell another reality show coming, The Bisexual World Cup Sucking Championship! The women against the men. Hmmm, I'll have think about this for awhile. Where would it be held? How would the competition be set up?

bushidoboy
Nov 14, 2008, 11:15 PM
Am I the only woman, but I do find Teaching a man how to suck cock so exciting and even more so showing him!!!

Anyone else ??

Comments???

Brenda

do you know any women in the bay giving lessons

twisted sister
Nov 14, 2008, 11:21 PM
don't know where it will be held, or how the competition will be set up? butt i'de put my money on our dd. sheer confidence alone seem's to me he thinks he's got the title in the bag:bigrin: so where do i place my bet ?

sis

onewhocares
Nov 14, 2008, 11:34 PM
You can get all the mediocre and just plain bad oral sex from women that you want and I'll still be getting and giving the best oral sex to men that's free of ego games and spiritually transcends anything that a woman can only try to do to a man! ;)

Boy DD you have an astonishing EGO. I agree with Volty when he said your wonderful experiences are that....YOURS. For you to make those impertinent generalizations only shows your bolstered opinion of yourself. Man how does your head ( I mean the one on top of your neck) fit through any door you try to walk in?

As those who may be familiar with the Food Networks show....THROWDOWN....maybe we should have a contest...since you think you are so superior in performance....maybe you could compete. What the heck I shall offer myself up as the first female challenger. I am not afraid of a challenge. Now......all we need are volunteers. Any takers!!!

Belle

twisted sister
Nov 14, 2008, 11:54 PM
i'm with you belle, wadda ya say, "lets slay flay":female::female::female:

sis

Not2str8
Nov 15, 2008, 12:21 AM
So D.D.'s not going to cast his pearls before us swine anymore, huh ? Somehow, I think that ain't gonna last long.

jem_is_bi
Nov 15, 2008, 2:15 AM
So D.D.'s not going to cast his pearls before us swine anymore, huh ? Somehow, I think that ain't gonna last long.

I hope that is true. Because on some issues, I agree with him and I do not care if I am in the minority on this issue.

Apleasureseeker
Nov 15, 2008, 2:48 AM
uh-oh, I smell another reality show coming, The Bisexual World Cup Sucking Championship! The women against the men. Hmmm, I'll have think about this for awhile. Where would it be held? How would the competition be set up?

Fifteen blindfolded heterosexual males, all similarly built and equipped, sitting in circle of chairs all facing outward from the center. Hanging from the ceiling is a giant timer. The contestants enter to music, alterantely boy/girl, take their positions and at the sound of the gong, get to work. What are the categories for the winner? Fastest ejaculation time? Slowest ejaculation time? Most orgasms within a given time? Most sperm volume milked out? First one to get their partner to pass out?

Anyway, afterwards, we interview the men & see which can tell if he had a man, and he's given the opportunity to do it again if he wants to. In the winner's suite, of course, on satin pillows, surrounded by beautiful swimsuit models, while the world watched on TV...

DiamondDog
Nov 15, 2008, 5:17 AM
Boy DD you have an astonishing EGO. I agree with Volty when he said your wonderful experiences are that....YOURS. For you to make those impertinent generalizations only shows your bolstered opinion of yourself. Man how does your head ( I mean the one on top of your neck) fit through any door you try to walk in?

As those who may be familiar with the Food Networks show....THROWDOWN....maybe we should have a contest...since you think you are so superior in performance....maybe you could compete. What the heck I shall offer myself up as the first female challenger. I am not afraid of a challenge. Now......all we need are volunteers. Any takers!!!

Belle

I'm not the only one here who has written about this topic and said how
women are clueless about sucking cock. There are even other women who have written about this topic on this forum.

Most women I know are quite mature & experienced & they tend to acknowledge that a man can understand a penis better than any woman.

I don't care if it's not PC since it's the truth! ;)

Nobody seems to get mad or play ego games when bi/lesbian women say how only women are adept and are a lot better at giving oral sex to other women than men are.

DiamondDog
Nov 15, 2008, 5:26 AM
Fifteen blindfolded heterosexual males, all similarly built and equipped, sitting in circle of chairs all facing outward from the center. Hanging from the ceiling is a giant timer. The contestants enter to music, alterantely boy/girl, take their positions and at the sound of the gong, get to work. What are the categories for the winner? Fastest ejaculation time? Slowest ejaculation time? Most orgasms within a given time? Most sperm volume milked out? First one to get their partner to pass out?

Anyway, afterwards, we interview the men & see which can tell if he had a man, and he's given the opportunity to do it again if he wants to. In the winner's suite, of course, on satin pillows, surrounded by beautiful swimsuit models, while the world watched on TV...

What makes you think bi/gay men would want sex with real hetero men? Or that hetero men would even want to do this?

I don't get off on the fantasy of falsely "converting" a hetero guy or even raping/sexually assaulting him with my mouth.

Het men certainly don't want sex at all from me, and they'd easily be able to tell that a guy is sucking them because it would be the best and most intense oral sex they'd ever gotten! :) Also I love to kiss men so they'd easily be able to tell that way.

darkeyes
Nov 15, 2008, 9:08 AM
What makes you think bi/gay men would want sex with real hetero men? Or that hetero men would even want to do this?

I don't get off on the fantasy of falsely "converting" a hetero guy or even raping/sexually assaulting him with my mouth.

Het men certainly don't want sex at all from me, and they'd easily be able to tell that a guy is sucking them because it would be the best and most intense oral sex they'd ever gotten! :) Also I love to kiss men so they'd easily be able to tell that way.Can think of quite a few gay an bi guys who wudn mind a twirl wiv sum str8 guys... in me own case can think a quite a few women who r str8 me has fancied a dally wiv... not so daft as 2 say they eva wud..but attraction is attraction.. an me knos wot an who me is attracted 2...

Hav role played a lil fantasy or 2 in the bedroom from time 2 time.. an the conversion "fantasy" is jus that..a fantasy like ne otha... mos intense experience wos chasin Kate for wot seemed an age wiv er havin a bf at the time an claimin she wos str8 an not interested... fantasised for months bout 'er an she kept pushin me way.. Mood music, low lites, a few giggles an a few glasses a plonk of an evenin put paid 2 that...;):tong:.. an we very happy tyvm.:bigrin:

..an the las bit DD hun is not even worthy of a reply...:rolleyes:

CuddlyKate
Nov 15, 2008, 10:07 AM
mos intense experience wos chasin Kate for wot seemed an age wiv er havin a bf at the time an claimin she wos str8 an not interested... fantasised for months bout 'er an she kept pushin me way.. Mood music, low lites, a few giggles an a few glasses a plonk of an evenin put paid 2 that...;):tong::bigrin:

I'm still straight. I bowed to the inevitable for an easy life.:(;)

sammie19
Nov 15, 2008, 11:21 AM
And its hell Kate.:)

timshelme
Nov 15, 2008, 5:13 PM
I would love it if my wife wanted to teach me how to suck cock, but I am not sure she has much experience ...my interest in the subject matter (I can almost taste it) would probably make me more skilled than her. How ironic, she has all the opportunity and I am just dying for the chance to learn...especially with another first timer ..with both our partners watching..I would even settle for cyberhead if such a thing exists.

jandj2play
Nov 15, 2008, 5:29 PM
I think it is Totally Hot.... whether or not "teaching" is the correct adjective,
I don't think matters.
Completely turns me on.

Apleasureseeker
Nov 15, 2008, 6:50 PM
What makes you think bi/gay men would want sex with real hetero men? Or that hetero men would even want to do this?

I don't get off on the fantasy of falsely "converting" a hetero guy or even raping/sexually assaulting him with my mouth.

Het men certainly don't want sex at all from me, and they'd easily be able to tell that a guy is sucking them because it would be the best and most intense oral sex they'd ever gotten! :) Also I love to kiss men so they'd easily be able to tell that way.

DD--It would have to be straight guys, since bi/gay guys would be able to tell the difference from expereince. Besides, the look on the straight guy's faces makes better TV. Dude, lighten up! This is just fun, a fantasy. Stupid bar talk. Nobody's doing it for real or even suggesting it. (Although I'm still turned on by Brenda the teacher). And you know, now that I think about it, the best head comes from the person you're turned on by the most, not thier gender.



Hav role played a lil fantasy or 2 in the bedroom from time 2 time.. an the conversion "fantasy" is jus that..a fantasy like ne otha... mos intense experience wos chasin Kate for wot seemed an age wiv er havin a bf at the time an claimin she wos str8 an not interested... fantasised for months bout 'er an she kept pushin me way.. Mood music, low lites, a few giggles an a few glasses a plonk of an evenin put paid 2 that...;):tong:.. an we very happy tyvm.:bigrin:

..an the las bit DD hun is not even worthy of a reply...:rolleyes:

Damn, darkeyes, I love your accent! If I were a woman I'd marry you! But you know, I've known a few girls seduced (even raped!) by other women, and it really messed them up emotionally. It is a hot fantasy, but the reality ain't so pretty.

darkeyes
Nov 16, 2008, 8:41 AM
Damn, darkeyes, I love your accent! If I were a woman I'd marry you! But you know, I've known a few girls seduced (even raped!) by other women, and it really messed them up emotionally. It is a hot fantasy, but the reality ain't so pretty.
Raped?? Wivout soundin obvious, rape, by man or woman 2 man or woman is enuff 2 mess ne 1 up emotionally an psychologically... hav seduced..an been seduced (usually more like they thot me wos bein seduced.. but not always) in me life.. wile it has neva harmed me emotionally ther hav been 1 or 2 less than nice experiences wich me wud ratha avoid repeatin.. but can c wy some women do get harmed emotionally an psycologically.. not every woman, or man for that matta is rite for a same sex encounter... our culture in itsel is a grave obstacle. Shame, disgust sumtimes follow... 1ce or twice me knos the object of me desire has wakened up in the mornin an jus cudn get way fast enuff.. cos consciense kikked in allied 2 fear an loathin of themselvs, me an wot they had dun..no matta how luffly the actual experience a seduction an luff makin.. so yas rite..sumtimes the reality can hav damagin effects on sum of us..

...an if ya wer a woman ya wudn... not unless ya wan 2 risk Naggy's wrath... she not a non violent pacifist like me... certainly not wen she is upset... me seen 'er in full cry..its luffly but its not summat me recommends...:tong:;):bigrin:

Apleasureseeker
Nov 16, 2008, 1:29 PM
Raped?? Wivout soundin obvious, rape, by man or woman 2 man or woman is enuff 2 mess ne 1 up emotionally an psychologically... hav seduced..an been seduced (usually more like they thot me wos bein seduced.. but not always) in me life.. wile it has neva harmed me emotionally ther hav been 1 or 2 less than nice experiences wich me wud ratha avoid repeatin.. but can c wy some women do get harmed emotionally an psycologically.. not every woman, or man for that matta is rite for a same sex encounter... our culture in itsel is a grave obstacle. Shame, disgust sumtimes follow... 1ce or twice me knos the object of me desire has wakened up in the mornin an jus cudn get way fast enuff.. cos consciense kikked in allied 2 fear an loathin of themselvs, me an wot they had dun..no matta how luffly the actual experience a seduction an luff makin.. so yas rite..sumtimes the reality can hav damagin effects on sum of us..

...an if ya wer a woman ya wudn... not unless ya wan 2 risk Naggy's wrath... she not a non violent pacifist like me... certainly not wen she is upset... me seen 'er in full cry..its luffly but its not summat me recommends...:tong:;):bigrin:

Thing is, there's seduction, then there's seduction. The fun fantasy, swept off your feet kind, but there's also the kind where a person gets manipulated into doing something they really didn't want to do. Trouble with the second sort is that the victim often feels it's somethign they did rather than something done to them. Well, all of this is way off the topic. Lets get back to seducing my confliced lips and tongue to doing something that the women wat to see as much as my body wants to do (even if I jump out of bed as soon as I'm satisfied!).

As far as you and your Naggy, I'll marry you both! Don't want to make her cry, now...

Sarasvati
Nov 16, 2008, 3:01 PM
Boy DD you have an astonishing EGO. I agree with Volty when he said your wonderful experiences are that....YOURS. For you to make those impertinent generalizations only shows your bolstered opinion of yourself. Man how does your head ( I mean the one on top of your neck) fit through any door you try to walk in?

As those who may be familiar with the Food Networks show....THROWDOWN....maybe we should have a contest...since you think you are so superior in performance....maybe you could compete. What the heck I shall offer myself up as the first female challenger. I am not afraid of a challenge. Now......all we need are volunteers. Any takers!!!

Belle

Surprised this post of yours Belle didn't get alot more responses - I'm definitely UP for the contest. I'll happily supply both heads if required.

Let's not be too hard on DD we need some big heads around this place.

Who else is in?

Bi Boi Indiana
Nov 16, 2008, 6:01 PM
I suggest that you educate yourself before you write even more ignorant and foolish statements about a subject you know nothing about and haven’t practiced that much of.


Geez Can we ALL not get ALONG And Support Each other's Lifestyle Instead of the petty trash talk ? Diamond this is Crazy ... You have Labeled yourself as a " Educated And out Queer Man " So says your profile ... Maybe if you offered Support to the Bi Community We Would Offer Some Support back! But instead all you continually do is BASH US ..... and say that you find something of our liking NOT ENJOYABLE .... Well im quite sure Some of us find taking a fist up the ass to be quite UN ENJOYABLE! If you expect us to respect you and your lifestyle, START RESPECTING OURS!

Your ignorance doesn't even warrant a reply like this. I will say this though; you don't seem to judge other men or other people here who prefer doing bondage/SM with only men or with both genders, so please don't do the same with me.

Diamond, as a person & Also a poster on this Forum i have lost ALL Respect for you ... To straight out call someon Ignorant is Wrong ...

Bi Boi Indiana
Nov 16, 2008, 6:13 PM
Quote:
What I meant about what mostly all women not wanting to do when they have sex with men has to do with what's called man-scent and licking clean armpits, and while not even all men are into this, I have queer male friends who share this fetish with me and we all agree that almost all women would not want to do this and how most women wouldn't be into it or the natural clean smell of a man's ripe pits, or 1-2 day old clean musk which are staples in gay sex/and the homoerotic, and are big fetishes for lots of men.



Yeah i'll argue this qoute too ..... My Wife has NO Problem Licking My Armpits, Even sometimes after i come in from Mowing the lawn, Or Doing anything else that i may have sweat quite alot ....... She'll lick them after im straight outta the shower too ...... HELL She'll even roll me up in a ball with my feet almost touching my head and Eat my ass ...... AND From HER I have had the BEST BLOW JOB I have ever gotten ..... Of Course i havent had one from you Diamond .... Nor do i want one ... Until you Can be more Supportive Of The Bi Lifestyle and stop trying to convert US Bi Guys over to your playing field with the false ness of Men give better head than women, Such bullshit
head is head .... Good or bad Lay back and enjoy it damn ......

I Suppose i just opened a whole new can of worms too ..... it's gonna be Now that men can Eat ass ( RIM ) Better than ANY Female could ever think of doing ....... *Slaps Head* It takes ALL kinds to make this big ol world go round ...... Woof!

DiamondDog
Nov 17, 2008, 6:46 AM
Geez Can we ALL not get ALONG And Support Each other's Lifestyle Instead of the petty trash talk ? Diamond this is Crazy ... You have Labeled yourself as a " Educated And out Queer Man " So says your profile ... Maybe if you offered Support to the Bi Community We Would Offer Some Support back! But instead all you continually do is BASH US ..... and say that you find something of our liking NOT ENJOYABLE .... Well im quite sure Some of us find taking a fist up the ass to be quite UN ENJOYABLE! If you expect us to respect you and your lifestyle, START RESPECTING OURS!

Diamond, as a person & Also a poster on this Forum i have lost ALL Respect for you ... To straight out call someon Ignorant is Wrong ...

Yeah i'll argue this qoute too ..... My Wife has NO Problem Licking My Armpits, Even sometimes after i come in from Mowing the lawn, Or Doing anything else that i may have sweat quite alot ....... She'll lick them after im straight outta the shower too ...... HELL She'll even roll me up in a ball with my feet almost touching my head and Eat my ass ...... AND From HER I have had the BEST BLOW JOB I have ever gotten ..... Of Course i havent had one from you Diamond .... Nor do i want one ... Until you Can be more Supportive Of The Bi Lifestyle and stop trying to convert US Bi Guys over to your playing field with the false ness of Men give better head than women, Such bullshit
head is head .... Good or bad Lay back and enjoy it damn ......

I Suppose i just opened a whole new can of worms too ..... it's gonna be Now that men can Eat ass ( RIM ) Better than ANY Female could ever think of doing ....... *Slaps Head* It takes ALL kinds to make this big ol world go round ...... Woof!

LMAO! Silly boi! Do you even know what the words queer and lifestyle mean? Or the context in which I use queer?

In all my years writing and discussing sexuality, what's with ignorant people talking about, or equating sexuality as a "lifestyle"? I understand that queer sexuality is linked with consumerism now more than ever but it's certainly not a lifestyle.

The pointless idea of heh "conversion" of bi men like US, isn't my goal. Anyway bi men are already there! Duh! I'm not talking about the ignorant idea that bi men are really gay either. It doesn't surprise me that you think that I'm somehow trying to "convert" bi men into homosexuals since you think that heterosexual men don't exist or can easily be converted into queer men.

It's not surprising that your fat porcine wife supposedly will lick your armpits. Who cares if she rims you either? I don't care what either of you do or don't do to each other when it comes to sex. Quite frankly I don't want to think about her naked or being sexual with you or anyone else at all.

As far as fisting goes even I'm not wired to take a hand and not many people are but the people who are into it do enjoy it. I don't even want or have to do it to someone all the time either. What's with people being such prudes that they think that fisting is nasty or a sexual "taboo", when it's neither?

I have no desire to have sex with you because I'm not attracted you, and what made you think that I even wanted to have sex with you?

This is the internet and we don't really know each other. I don't care if you once had or have lost respect for me. I'm not going to cry myself to sleep because Bill in Indiana on a website supposedly doesn't have respect for me anymore.

Consequently I could care less what a woman from Georgia who is very ignorant about bondage/discipline/SM/TPE-Total power exchange relationships and erotic power exchange foolishly writes about a subject that she knows little to nothing about. I do however think that it's funny that she wants to learn about such things or at least be open minded about them yet refuses to actually educate herself about them, and stays ignorant!

Don't get mad because deep down you know what I wrote about men giving better oral sex to men is true! ;)

You haven't been with the right guy yet and you're only saying that about your wife because you have a relationship with her, and she's your wife!

Throw a temper tantrum like a child all you want. Nobody really cares, or is going to listen. People may pretend to but do you have faith in total strangers online? I certainly don't.

If you and your wife want to foolishly rush blindly into a relationship to become bug chasers, with death wishes, and be reckless to your health and have sex with someone that's HIV+ who you don't even know, that doesn't even care about you, that's your personal choice.

jay_1981
Nov 17, 2008, 7:22 AM
girls who are in to bi guys rock in my opinion

Bi Boi Indiana
Nov 17, 2008, 10:51 AM
LMAO! Silly boi! Do you even know what the words queer and lifestyle mean? Or the context in which I use queer?

In all my years writing and discussing sexuality, what's with ignorant people talking about, or equating sexuality as a "lifestyle"? I understand that queer sexuality is linked with consumerism now more than ever but it's certainly not a lifestyle.

The pointless idea of heh "conversion" of bi men like US, isn't my goal. Anyway bi men are already there! Duh! I'm not talking about the ignorant idea that bi men are really gay either. It doesn't surprise me that you think that I'm somehow trying to "convert" bi men into homosexuals since you think that heterosexual men don't exist or can easily be converted into queer men.

It's not surprising that your fat porcine wife supposedly will lick your armpits. Who cares if she rims you either? I don't care what either of you do or don't do to each other when it comes to sex. Quite frankly I don't want to think about her naked or being sexual with you or anyone else at all.

As far as fisting goes even I'm not wired to take a hand and not many people are but the people who are into it do enjoy it. I don't even want or have to do it to someone all the time either. What's with people being such prudes that they think that fisting is nasty or a sexual "taboo", when it's neither?

I have no desire to have sex with you because I'm not attracted you, and what made you think that I even wanted to have sex with you?

This is the internet and we don't really know each other. I don't care if you once had or have lost respect for me. I'm not going to cry myself to sleep because Bill in Indiana on a website supposedly doesn't have respect for me anymore.

Consequently I could care less what a woman from Georgia who is very ignorant about bondage/discipline/SM/TPE-Total power exchange relationships and erotic power exchange foolishly writes about a subject that she knows little to nothing about. I do however think that it's funny that she wants to learn about such things or at least be open minded about them yet refuses to actually educate herself about them, and stays ignorant!

Don't get mad because deep down you know what I wrote about men giving better oral sex to men is true! ;)

You haven't been with the right guy yet and you're only saying that about your wife because you have a relationship with her, and she's your wife!

Throw a temper tantrum like a child all you want. Nobody really cares, or is going to listen. People may pretend to but do you have faith in total strangers online? I certainly don't.

If you and your wife want to foolishly rush blindly into a relationship to become bug chasers, with death wishes, and be reckless to your health and have sex with someone that's HIV+ who you don't even know, that doesn't even care about you, that's your personal choice.


All i can say is your an asshole! Straight up Asshole! ..... Hopefully I Get my account yanked from what i have to say to you! ..... YOU Call people Fat .. You wanna trash the fact that because the guy we both Like, Love & YES Dickhead we KNOW Him .... Has HIV ..... and because of that we wont cast him to the curb and walk all over him like some piece of shit under our feet ..


You can call me a bug chaser all you want ..... Really does not bother me in the least ...... I know how to protect myself From the Virus ... Karma one day will bite you right on the ass Diamond, and when it does I So hope I Hear about it, because im gonna laugh my ass off ..... You'll mess around with someone one of these days and they wont tell you they are Positive .... and something HORRIBLE Will happen, like a condom break ..... God forbid, i dont wish HIV On anyone! But it would teach you a lesson you really need to learn
HOW TO LOVE ANYONE AND EVERYONE UNCONDITIONALLY! HIV + Or - .... he's a Person To and Deserves to be loved just as you would wanna be loved

And thank you for Verifyin that for me, that you would not have sex with me! THANK YOU GOD! Because i find you rather Repulsive! .... I've Seen better Looking asshole's on Farm animals ( And no dont go there, Im not into beastiality ) Then what i see when i look at your Pictures!


your one sick Fuck! ...... Learn what true love is .... Stop picking up your one night stands ( TRICKS ) And Learn some feelings for the person next to you ... its not all about you ..... As you wish to think it is ... Your just a self centered lil prick .... No Worries, If drew does not delete my account ....I'll do it mahself .... I have no Wants to be associated with the likes of you and your IGNORANT Ramblings and trying to push "YOUR" Idea's Or "YOUR" Pleasrues off on others ......

To anyone and everyone else here ..... it has been ALL My Honor to know you, but with the likes of HIM here i will not stay around ..... he's gonna destroy this Forum ....... Would be great if Drew would Boot his ass .... but oh well ..... I wont be around to see it happen! I Wish you all the very Best ...
and i hope you ALL find what your looking for ......

Much Love,
~BILL~

lilme
Nov 17, 2008, 11:11 AM
It does not matter how I do it, the guys I have sucked liked it and I really liked it. If a guy shoots his load in my mouth and moans and moans some more, I say it must have been good. If you are hungry enough for some cum, you do it the way it feels the best.
chi

boca.openminded
Nov 17, 2008, 2:05 PM
back to the topic

yes, I would enjoy being coached by a woman!!!

Bi Boi Indiana
Nov 17, 2008, 2:08 PM
[QUOTE=Bi Boi Indiana;115792]If you and your wife want to foolishly rush blindly into a relationship to become bug chasers, with death wishes, and be reckless to your health and have sex with someone that's HIV+ who you don't even know, that doesn't even care about you, that's your personal choice.QUOTE]

And THANK YOU For taking Information that i shared with you AND YOU ALONE. and making it Public Knowledge! .... Show's a great deal about your charachter ... ( Someone NOT To be trusted with information ) Especially if you dont want the whole world knowing! :bigrin: and further more, How the hell do you know "IF" He cares for us or not ? ..... Eyeroll what does it matter, your only trying to pass along your own pleasures and whatever else you can make someone believe ... *Shrugs* .... I once thought you was a decent person ... Thanks for teaching me a lesson ....

And your Silly boi comment .... Thanks but no thanks Sweetheart ... I got 14 years on ya! *Wink* .... Maybe one day when ya mature a lil, and forget the drama, you'll be an ok person ... Maybe!

I honestly do hope, that you DONT lose any sleep over anything i have said, Because it's quite obvious you need ALOT of beauty sleep ...

I LOVE YOU SEXY BOI .... ( Made me sick to say that )
~BILL~

csrakate
Nov 17, 2008, 2:11 PM
Consequently I could care less what a woman from Georgia who is very ignorant about bondage/discipline/SM/TPE-Total power exchange relationships and erotic power exchange foolishly writes about a subject that she knows little to nothing about. I do however think that it's funny that she wants to learn about such things or at least be open minded about them yet refuses to actually educate herself about them, and stays ignorant!

Oh dear me DiamondDog...I do believe I have said, in a very conciliatory tone I might add, that I have nothing against those who participate in or practice bondage/discipline/SM/TPE. The ONLY reason I ever mentioned it in regards to you is because you keep claiming to know the true meaning of a loving and giving relationship with a woman and to my knowledge as well as the information you post here, you have never participated in one nor do you wish to. You have stated numerous times that the only way you wish to have sex with a woman is in a submissive role to you. That is IT....no judgments or no criticizing from me in that regard. Call me ignorant all you wish, DD....because in the grand scheme of things, I would much rather be known as ignorant than all knowing about something I do not participate in such as yourself. And if you continue to berate those that do not agree with you, you will truly be remembered as "Cocksucker Extraordinaire" though not in the context that you may be wishing for. As for myself, I will be much happier when it is all said and done that I was known for my heart and not for my "intellect".

Kate

darkeyes
Nov 17, 2008, 2:27 PM
Mumsy... tell 'im in words me will undastand willya?? Short sharp an mumsyish... yas beginnin 2 sound like ya has soft spot for 'im..very restrained.. wotta knob (not u dearest mumsy..neva u..tee) hee:tong::bigrin:

DiamondDog
Nov 17, 2008, 3:42 PM
Oh dear me DiamondDog...I do believe I have said, in a very conciliatory tone I might add, that I have nothing against those who participate in or practice bondage/discipline/SM/TPE. The ONLY reason I ever mentioned it in regards to you is because you keep claiming to know the true meaning of a loving and giving relationship with a woman and to my knowledge as well as the information you post here, you have never participated in one nor do you wish to. You have stated numerous times that the only way you wish to have sex with a woman is in a submissive role to you. That is IT....no judgments or no criticizing from me in that regard. Call me ignorant all you wish, DD....because in the grand scheme of things, I would much rather be known as ignorant than all knowing about something I do not participate in such as yourself. And if you continue to berate those that do not agree with you, you will truly be remembered as "Cocksucker Extraordinaire" though not in the context that you may be wishing for. As for myself, I will be much happier when it is all said and done that I was known for my heart and not for my "intellect".

Kate

Like I've wrote before bondage/SM is sex and lots of people prefer to be dominant or submissive with only one gender. Stay ignorant and judgemental all you want both about myself and bondage/SM or why people want to be dominant, submissive, or both with one gender or the other or both.

BDSM isn't always about agression or abuse even if it looks like it. Everything is carefully consented upon and people will actually make up big lists of what they are and simply aren't into doing at all and safewords are used.

I know to the outside observer it looks like it's abuse or anger but it's not. Many people do it out of love, respect, and have a craving for things that vanilla sex (sex that isn't BDSM and doesn't involve any power exchange) doesn't give them. Also for many people BDSM can be spiritual.

Yes I have had a relationship with a woman. She was my submissive and I know you won't think that a relationship like that is valid but it was. I broke up with her because I couldn't give her what she wanted which was a monogamous/closed relationship and I didn't cheat on her. I know that you won't think that this is a real valid relationship because it was done via the context of bondage/SM and erotic power exchange but it was agreed upon and wanted by both of us.

Anyway it's not like I'm proclaiming myself LOL "king of all cocksuckers" like I saw on one guy's online profile before.

As far as my intellect and my heart/ability to love goes I'm actually a very loving and kind man even if I don't come across that way always online. :)

darkeyes
Nov 17, 2008, 3:58 PM
As far as my intellect and my heart/ability to love goes I'm actually a very loving and kind man even if I don't come across that way always online. :)

Keeps 'er cyber gob well an truly zipped...:tong:

csrakate
Nov 17, 2008, 4:04 PM
As far as my intellect and my heart/ability to love goes I'm actually a very loving and kind man even if I don't come across that way always online. :)

I will concede that I do NOT know you well enough to make any assumptions. All I ask is that you extend the same courtesy to me as well as the many who do not agree with your views. And really, does it really matter who sucks cock better? As long as our partners are happy, isn't that all that really matters?

Now back to our regularly scheduled question....I think it would be wonderful for people of all genders to be open to teach and to learn from one another!!!

darkeyes
Nov 17, 2008, 9:03 PM
I will concede that I do NOT know you well enough to make any assumptions. All I ask is that you extend the same courtesy to me as well as the many who do not agree with your views. And really, does it really matter who sucks cock better? As long as our partners are happy, isn't that all that really matters?

Now back to our regularly scheduled question....I think it would be wonderful for people of all genders to be open to teach and to learn from one another!!!
Pouts:(

Pouts worse...:(:(:(.. mumsy wonts chance for DD 2 teach 'er stuff???? ...an 'er 2 teach 'im??? Naaa.. she can't mean that...can she??? :rolleyes::eek:

*shakes head worried an concerned for 'er mumsy*

No sleep for Fran tonite...:( .. o the stress an worry that woman gives me...:(

:tong::bigrin:

onewhocares
Nov 17, 2008, 10:56 PM
And if you continue to berate those that do not agree with you, you will truly be remembered as "Cocksucker Extraordinaire" though not in the context that you may be wishing for. As for myself, I will be much happier when it is all said and done that I was known for my heart and not for my "intellect".
Kate

Kate.....I would be ever SO proud to be one tenth of the woman you are. I would like to think that I am but I could never be. Being a thoughtful, caring, giving woman who is concerned not about herself but of helping and giving to others who find themselves in a crossroads and in need of well just plain talk have the privilege of having YOU on this forum. It is funny how some people see each other....DD expresses his thoughts and others, and I shall be the first one in line to say that I am proud to have YOU here to give genuine, intelligent counterpoints to comments that are biased and perhaps reflective of one mans opinions.

Come to think of it......"cock sucker extraordinaire" what does one do to have to qualify for suck a distinction? Is there a set of aptitude tests or standards that one must pass? I have heard of the SAT's, the GED's. the LSAT's or perhaps a test for a doctor, a lawyer, or a C.P A.?

Should we establish a test or ranking system? What might the qualifications be?


Belle

jem_is_bi
Nov 17, 2008, 11:55 PM
Like I've wrote before bondage/SM is sex and lots of people prefer to be dominant or submissive with only one gender. Stay ignorant and judgemental all you want both about myself and bondage/SM or why people want to be dominant, submissive, or both with one gender or the other or both.

BDSM isn't always about agression or abuse even if it looks like it. Everything is carefully consented upon and people will actually make up big lists of what they are and simply aren't into doing at all and safewords are used.

I know to the outside observer it looks like it's abuse or anger but it's not. Many people do it out of love, respect, and have a craving for things that vanilla sex (sex that isn't BDSM and doesn't involve any power exchange) doesn't give them. Also for many people BDSM can be spiritual.

Yes I have had a relationship with a woman. She was my submissive and I know you won't think that a relationship like that is valid but it was. I broke up with her because I couldn't give her what she wanted which was a monogamous/closed relationship and I didn't cheat on her. I know that you won't think that this is a real valid relationship because it was done via the context of bondage/SM and erotic power exchange but it was agreed upon and wanted by both of us.

Anyway it's not like I'm proclaiming myself LOL "king of all cocksuckers" like I saw on one guy's online profile before.

As far as my intellect and my heart/ability to love goes I'm actually a very loving and kind man even if I don't come across that way always online. :)

Sometimes I love the turmoil created when you defend your views with a full assault on those with a different opinion.
Other times, I become weary of the ensuing insulting verbal exchange.
Most often on line you have the persona of an insensitive man.
So, I am glad that in your heart you’re a loving man.
Sometimes, if this was conveyed to us, your arguments for your point of view (and sometimes mine) would be much more effective.
Rather, the back and forth often gets vindictive.
Sometimes I agree with your point of view and sometimes not.
This time is one of those times I agree COMPLETELY!

charmed_goddess87
Nov 18, 2008, 2:48 AM
All I Have To Say Is... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ-FAV9fBII :tong:

darkeyes
Nov 18, 2008, 8:54 AM
Wile we all argy bargyin bout the delites an best way a eatin sausage.. can me jus ruin the fun an bring yas down 2 earth...

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/11/18/hungry.kids.ap/index.html

kinda puts this lil discussion inta perspective...:(

onewhocares
Nov 18, 2008, 10:26 AM
Wile we all argy bargyin bout the delites an best way a eatin sausage.. can me jus ruin the fun an bring yas down 2 earth...

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/11/18/hungry.kids.ap/index.html

kinda puts this lil discussion inta perspective...:(

THANK YOU FRANCES

darkeyes
Nov 18, 2008, 1:11 PM
THANK YOU FRANCES
U shoutin at me or sayin ta o gorge tall lady?:tong: kissie wicheva.. muah!!!!:bigrin:

onewhocares
Nov 18, 2008, 7:05 PM
No Miss Frances, I was SO not shouting my friend. I wanted to emphasize my thanks for your comments, that is all I meant by it my friend.

Belle

mannysg
Nov 19, 2008, 12:20 AM
Sorry I don't find this hot at all.

Men don't need any help learning how to suck cock, because it's just something that we know how to do very well, and even the worst fellatio from a man is better than excellent fellatio from a woman.

Yeah I know it's not PC to say that but it's true. It's just like how only a woman really knows how to give excellent oral sex to another woman better than a man does.



I disagree. I've had both good and bad BJs from both genders.

The worst BJ I've had was from a guy, the best was from a woman. Most of the other BJs from both genders were about equal.

DiamondDog
Nov 19, 2008, 2:22 AM
And THANK YOU For taking Information that i shared with you AND YOU ALONE. and making it Public Knowledge! .... Show's a great deal about your charachter ... ( Someone NOT To be trusted with information ) Especially if you dont want the whole world knowing! :bigrin: and further more, How the hell do you know "IF" He cares for us or not ? ..... Eyeroll what does it matter, your only trying to pass along your own pleasures and whatever else you can make someone believe ... *Shrugs* .... I once thought you was a decent person ... Thanks for teaching me a lesson ....

And your Silly boi comment .... Thanks but no thanks Sweetheart ... I got 14 years on ya! *Wink* .... Maybe one day when ya mature a lil, and forget the drama, you'll be an ok person ... Maybe!

I honestly do hope, that you DONT lose any sleep over anything i have said, Because it's quite obvious you need ALOT of beauty sleep ...

I LOVE YOU SEXY BOI .... ( Made me sick to say that )

All i can say is your an asshole! Straight up Asshole! ..... Hopefully I Get my account yanked from what i have to say to you! ..... YOU Call people Fat .. You wanna trash the fact that because the guy we both Like, Love & YES Dickhead we KNOW Him .... Has HIV ..... and because of that we wont cast him to the curb and walk all over him like some piece of shit under our feet ..


You can call me a bug chaser all you want ..... Really does not bother me in the least ...... I know how to protect myself From the Virus ... Karma one day will bite you right on the ass Diamond, and when it does I So hope I Hear about it, because im gonna laugh my ass off ..... You'll mess around with someone one of these days and they wont tell you they are Positive .... and something HORRIBLE Will happen, like a condom break ..... God forbid, i dont wish HIV On anyone! But it would teach you a lesson you really need to learn
HOW TO LOVE ANYONE AND EVERYONE UNCONDITIONALLY! HIV + Or - .... he's a Person To and Deserves to be loved just as you would wanna be loved

And thank you for Verifyin that for me, that you would not have sex with me! THANK YOU GOD! Because i find you rather Repulsive! .... I've Seen better Looking asshole's on Farm animals (And go there, Im into beastiality ) Then what i see when i look at your Pictures!


your one sick Fuck! ...... Learn what true love is .... Stop picking up your one night stands ( TRICKS ) And Learn some feelings for the person next to you ... its not all about you ..... As you wish to think it is ... Your just a self centered lil prick .... No Worries, If drew does not delete my account ....I'll do it mahself .... I have no Wants to be associated with the likes of you and your IGNORANT Ramblings and trying to push "YOUR" Idea's Or "YOUR" Pleasrues off on others ......

To anyone and everyone else here ..... it has been ALL My Honor to know you, but with the likes of HIM here i will not stay around ..... he's gonna destroy this Forum ....... Would be great if Drew would Boot his ass .... but oh well ..... I wont be around to see it happen! I Wish you all the very Best ...
and i hope you ALL find what your looking for ......

Much Love,
~BILL~


It's not that big of a secret that he's HIV+.

Anyone can look at his pics and tell as clear as day that he's HIV+ because of the side effects from the cocktail of meds and how flat/indented his face is from that.

I noticed that he doesn't mention this in his profile at all and that's akin to lying, it's like those people who say that they bareback but then say that they're HIV-. :rolleyes:

Way to get all ageist on me I may be 14 years younger but I'm way more mature than you'll ever be. At least I'm not an immature adult like you are, and I don't give a fuck about the idea of holding onto youth or being a boi like you do.

I don't care if you are or aren't attracted to me even if you've written to me a lot saying how I'm sexy or other things you've liked about me that were so fake like queens like you enjoy bullshitting to people.

I don't care if you're flipping out and causing tons of drama right here and now because of your low self esteem, out of fear, and because you're a desperate bug chaser.

As far as drama goes you told me how you want to die HIV- and how you never want to get it but then you flip out, can't control your emotions at all, and you and your grotesque wife foolishly rush into a relationship with a guy that's HIV+ to do high risk sex with him, and you haven't even known each other for more than a week and you claim that you love him when it's just lust. How's that for being way too desperate, pushy, highly foolish when it comes to actual serious relationships/your own health, and just plain ignorant on your part?

Also you don't know anything about safer sex/staying HIV- and about risks/medications/viral loads or any of that. Good luck trying to stay HIV- since you don't know anything about that or about safer sex.

I'm a very rare thing in the 'gay' world and yes I do have HIV+ friends who I love and care for but we're just not sexually active together at all since they don't have sex with HIV neg people at all.

Silly boi! I do know what love is! I have a lot of it in my life and I give it to many even if I don't write about that aspect of my life on here. What even makes you think that I'm into tricks or slutting around?

Again if you and your wife want to foolishly rush blindly into a relationship to become bug chasers, with death wishes, and be reckless to your health and have sex with someone that's HIV+ who you don't even know, that doesn't even care about you, that's your personal choice.

sterculius
Dec 2, 2008, 1:45 PM
Am I the only woman, but I do find Teaching a man how to suck cock so exciting and even more so showing him!!!

Anyone else ??

Comments???

Brenda
I'd like to sign up for your classes, not so much that I might learn something new, (although you never know) but because I just LOVE to practice!!!

MissyMissy
Dec 2, 2008, 2:55 PM
mmm nummmies! i was just told last week i gave the best blowjob he has ever had in his lifetime. no i am not god' s gift to men completly when it comes to sucking cock but there are a few times that i get that opportunity to hear i am.
miss missy

FantasyQuest
Dec 2, 2008, 9:16 PM
i'd like a lesson or two or three or four..........:bigrin:

max617
Dec 2, 2008, 10:26 PM
Well,Brenda...its been way too many years since I've sucked cock,and sharing and learning with a lovely woman would certainly be a dream come true for me...men and women sucking cock together is so hot!

Hoselvr
Dec 3, 2008, 6:48 PM
Well......I've been sucking cock for a long long time, but I still get turned on by the idea of a woman "teaching me" how to do it "first hand" (pun intended), lol.

Yummy.

Dano111
Dec 4, 2008, 12:21 AM
I never thought it was necessary for a woman to show a man how to suck cock. However, on one instance I did have a woman want to watch, than participate. I thought we both did well, especially when it came to the finale.

Sharing the ability to give someone pleasure is the most ultimate.

opentoideas1964
Dec 4, 2008, 9:35 PM
"Well I'm not going to debate who sucks better, a woman or a man, experienced or not. All I have to say is that the worst blowjob I have had was still darn good and I'm so grateful."

HA!HA!HA! Love that statement. I for one an a hard one( no pun intended) to get off orally. It takes great skill and patience for anyone giving me head.:tongue:

AdamKadmon43
Dec 5, 2008, 12:15 AM
EAT, EAT, EAT.....

Don't anyone fuck anymore ????

BrotherJack
Dec 5, 2008, 2:28 AM
It's all that deer meat being transported from Michigan, Adam! Anyway.....you don't fuck....you make love!

DiamondDog
Dec 5, 2008, 2:56 AM
EAT, EAT, EAT.....

Don't anyone fuck anymore ????

"Eat it Peggy! Eat it like Gertrude Stein!!!!!"

BrotherJack
Dec 5, 2008, 3:36 AM
EAT, EAT, EAT.....

Don't anyone fuck anymore ????

You really should have been heading for another year of not posting, my love. You really should.

wefco2315
Dec 5, 2008, 8:11 AM
Ok so I am coming into this post a little bit late.... Count me in the list of students who would like to attend the class!!!!!!!!!!

verycurious100
Dec 5, 2008, 5:14 PM
that would be such a turn on
sharing a big cock with a women while she teaches u
mmmmmmmmmmmmm

mannysg
Dec 6, 2008, 7:48 AM
that would be such a turn on
sharing a big cock with a women while she teaches u
mmmmmmmmmmmmm

I agree! Sharing a cock with my wife has been a fantasy of mine for a long time.

biguy77
Dec 6, 2008, 9:42 PM
THAT SOUNDS VERY HOT, LOVE THE THOUGHT OF A WOMEN WITH HER HANDS ON TH BACK OF MY HEAD TEACHING ME HOW TO SUCK COCK AND MAYBE WITH A STRAP ON POUNDING ME WOULD BE A THRILL.

cuninglingwist
Jan 5, 2009, 4:14 AM
big clumsey rough hands, scrubby beard, beer breath,....I dont think so,

soft hands, long tantilising fingers, smooth face, wet mouth, soft kisses,probing tongue, heaving breast,

brenda66 you can do me anytime.

I think some men have been geting to many blow jobs from guys, not enough from babes.

DubTak
Jan 7, 2009, 3:51 AM
My fiancee (:female:) is a tenured professor at Fellatio University.

(my first girlfriend clearly never even applied there)
(my only boy experience is maybe taking night classes...)

-DubTak:flag4:

BTW cuninglingwist the negative male description, e.g. big clumsy hands, etc....might have turned me on a bit...

Bicuriousman
Jan 7, 2009, 8:18 PM
I would bet there are some guys out there that could teach a woman a thing or two about fellatio.

Apleasureseeker
Jan 8, 2009, 1:45 AM
When it comes to sucking cock, only men know what other men want and like!

Nice try you fake and poser! You've probably never even had sex with a man either, nor do you want to.

Even my wife agreed with me that only another man knows how to really give another man excellent oral sex, just like a woman only knows how to eat pussy well and please a woman better than any man can.

Bullpucky!

You know, no matter how great a person can use their mouth, it's really up to the person recieving it. You can suck a guy's kidneys out of his cockhead, but if he prefers women, it won't mean a thing. Same for girls. The media portrays lesbianism as this sexual crack for women. One taste and all their sexual fantasies are satisfied, and they never respect the cock again. While it's true that more women are willing to try a ride on the bisexual pony, you'll find that a lot of them won't want to get on a second time. It's just not their thing.

Having had my cock sucked out by both sexes, I give in to the pleasure from both, but, being a little more connected to women on more levels, enjoy it more. No reflection on the men who've knelt for me.

Bicuriousman
Jan 8, 2009, 2:25 AM
I have gotten off more from a man orally than a woman

trubipoly
Jan 8, 2009, 8:43 AM
I think since every man likes his cock sucked differently you would need to watch him suck a cock to find out how he likes it. its just like eating pussy, just because you did it one specific way to one woman and drove her wild doesnt mean that it is the way all women like it. with that said though learning is so much fun. i volunteer to be the Blow dummy. clas after class teaching and learning to give head using me as the focus :) but then in order to teach you have to learn so maybe I should practice my skills on other willing participants as well

forestgreen0461
Jan 10, 2009, 1:15 AM
I think that is so hot! I have been dreaming about that scenario.......hit me if any one is interested .
I am a married orally bi male:tongue:

Dano111
Jan 11, 2009, 9:09 AM
My GF wants to watch me, see if I do it right. Usually, I always get results though, Am very particular, though a mouthfull is a reward for your sharing.

Perhaps I need to practice more, that would be helpful

daveski
Jan 11, 2009, 12:58 PM
Now show me, where do you want me to lick....Oh yeah, let me try...suck what where, show me how...mmm bet he feels great...now go down where...sure, while I do that why don't you...

No matter how meny bj's one gives, the next one is alway's new...just go with the flow, pardon the pun...:cool:

jfra18
Jan 11, 2009, 3:08 PM
I personally learned from emulating what I enjoyed women to do to me

shybipinay
Jan 11, 2009, 10:12 PM
Both my wife and I would like to sign up for lessons. As for who does it best, we agree with the concept that it is the individual and their specialized technique. The best bj I had was from a woman. I also had one really great bj from a guy, but it just wasn't the same as that woman's. Suffice it to say, they were both damn good for their own special reasons.

bettycd469
Jan 11, 2009, 10:49 PM
Am I the only woman, but I do find Teaching a man how to suck cock so exciting and even more so showing him!!!

Anyone else ??

Comments???

Brenda

if that is your picture l rather u taught me how to eat pussy

curiousandlonely
Jan 12, 2009, 12:47 AM
Am I the only woman, but I do find Teaching a man how to suck cock so exciting and even more so showing him!!!

Anyone else ??

Comments???

Brenda

i would love to take lessons on sucking cock but we are too far apart i'm in mississippi my bad luck;)

koreycage
Feb 4, 2009, 1:48 AM
The thought of a woman teaching me to suck cock is such a turn on.

onewhocares
Feb 4, 2009, 8:17 AM
This is NOT an ad or promotion for the store but thought you would all get a kick out of it.

How timely.......When I was in Good Vibrations in Boston, MA last week picking up a few goodies for Valentine's Day...there was an add for a class to be held on February 9th....

Fabulous Fellatio:
The ART of Oral Sex
There is nothing like a gourmet blow job and we will have a teacher here to teach you the art of giving head. You will learn all sorts of tips for making your partner moan, the ergonomics of excellent head, how to work hand action, mouth movement and much more. These skills also work when you are going down on a strap on. The workshop included non sexual participation, so come prepared to have fun. No skirts, please. All genders welcome. ( a woman with red lipstick lips is sucking on a banana on the little flyer)

I mentioned this to a few girl friends and we might go and make a night of it. A little refresher course for all my married friends. Even may add to continuing education credits eh? Also mentioned this to a friend and he laughed..."why are YOU going " he said....YOU could be a teacher....I said...that I was asked to be a visiting guest lecturer! Yesterday a nice bright Red Delicious Apple appeared on my desk at work....around the corner came a smiling friend.

Thought you all would get a kick of this as there really ARE classes to take.

Belle

PS...if you really want to come to the class...we have a big house and there is plenty of room to stay. Boston is a great town.

curious44
Feb 4, 2009, 8:59 AM
You don't say whether the instructor(s) is male or female. :tongue:

Hoselvr
Feb 4, 2009, 1:41 PM
I am ALL for a sensuous woman "showing" me how to suck cock and share it together with some french kissing thrown in intermittently......or one of us sucking the cock while the other sucks the balls....and maybe even a little analingus thrown in for the pleasure of all three participants. Even though I have had more than a few experiences at sucking cock and ALWAYS received a delicious protein shake upon completion with ample compliments, I would ALWAYS accept a woman "showing" and sharing with me the "deep" pleasures of sucking cock. Geeeee, I guess that's what makes me bisexual, LOL. MUAH!!!!

onewhocares
Feb 4, 2009, 2:21 PM
You don't say whether the instructor(s) is male or female. :tongue:

Well....when I go on Monday night I will find out and let you know....I would be open to either gender as a teacher..I do not discriminate.

Belle

Lonewolf76
Feb 4, 2009, 7:33 PM
Well,
If I've learned anything in my life - it is that there is still much to learn - sign me up!! LW

dougbi
Feb 4, 2009, 9:20 PM
Okay, I think its kinda crass, but I feel compelled to say "ME TOO" Anyone who wants to get together in the appropriate setting and exchange tips and pointers, maybe with a willing volunteer, should contact me...

I thoroughly enjoy oral sex in all its forms, and I do not think enough of the worlds literature, film or interpretive dance is devoted to the subject.
:flag2:

eddy10
Feb 4, 2009, 9:56 PM
As I say in my profile, I have a thirst for knowledge. The seminar would be a great way to satisfy my thirst.

onewhocares
Feb 4, 2009, 10:44 PM
Well WHO KNEW that there would be SO much interest in a plain ole simple instructional class here in Boston? Gee Wiz....tell yah what...for those who really wish to participate in the class..kindly call Good Vibrations in Brighton, MA and sign up for the class. Since you will be visiting Boston I feel compelled to act as hostess for this evening. I shall pick you up front the airport and give you fine accommodations here at Casa Belle in Boston....breakfast of your choice included. I love the experession..you are never to old to learn something new.

Belle

max617
Feb 5, 2009, 12:12 AM
Its been a very very long time since I sucked cock,and sharing one with a lady would be the ultimate turn on!

IntoExploring
Feb 5, 2009, 12:37 AM
I don't care what some people think, I think it's HOTTT!!! I would love to have lessons....if for no other reason than giving her a show and helping me!

CUMM2LBV
Feb 5, 2009, 2:29 AM
Sure are a lot of angry cocksuckers here...

Dog, thanks for taking me back many years and many memorable blowjobs to Koza four corners. I'm sure someone here besides myself has been to Koza, Okinawa.

In a sort of open air store front kind of massage parlor. you would go in, remove your pants and climb up on the massage table. Mama San comes in with a hot towel, pan of warm water and a bar of soap. After she washes your cock and balls and wipes the equipment with the hot towel, she removes her teeth and puts them on the stand by the massage table and proceeds to suck your cock with style and a level of skill that could only be achieved with many years of dedication to her art. Truly a blow job or gum job if you will for the ages.

Belle, you definitely have a way with words. I'm not sure that you managed to get through though. As to your skill and devotion to the art of the blow job, I am happy to take your word for it...

FLArkie
Feb 5, 2009, 2:36 PM
It has been my experience over the years that there are very, very few women who are good at cock sucking. Others are adequate and frankly, most are not very good at all. Herein I believe this is because most women do not like to suck a man's penis and those who do only do so as a favor to him. The attitude usually shows since they look to get the ordeal over with as quickly as they can.

I would tend to think that men would be better cocksuckers than women, only from the perspective that it is easier to do something for someone else that you, yourself enjoy. And likewise, women are probably better pussylickers than men. Its just easier to work on a tool you yourself are familiar with!

sterculius
Feb 5, 2009, 4:26 PM
Very hot! Honestly I think guys suck cock better than woman but the idea of a woman getting into to the point of wanting to show a guy how to suck cock is a big turn on! The thought of her grabbing the other cock and guiding me with her hand on the back of my head is very hot!

Personally I think the idea of a woman showing a guy how to get fucked is even hottier!

I, for one, would LOVE to have Brenda teach me how to be a better cocksucker.
She can shove my head down onto the cock to get it deeper in my throat as much as she likes. She can even grab me by the ears.Please Brenda!!! Just tell me where and when. I need the practice.

csrakate
Feb 5, 2009, 4:54 PM
It has been my experience over the years that there are very, very few women who are good at cock sucking. Others are adequate and frankly, most are not very good at all. Herein I believe this is because most women do not like to suck a man's penis and those who do only do so as a favor to him. The attitude usually shows since they look to get the ordeal over with as quickly as they can.

I would tend to think that men would be better cocksuckers than women, only from the perspective that it is easier to do something for someone else that you, yourself enjoy. And likewise, women are probably better pussylickers than men. Its just easier to work on a tool you yourself are familiar with!
I don't want to start this debate again, but I have to take issue with this blanket statement. Maybe you just haven't met the right women, but I can promise you that many of us take great delight in pleasuring our male partners and in addition, hardly do so with an attitude to "just get the ordeal over with as quickly" as we can. I personally derive a great deal of pleasure from giving as much as I do from receiving and would never stoop so low as to do something "just as a favor" to someone. Sex is a two way street and the mutual pleasure that can be attained from it is something wonderful to behold.

onewhocares
Feb 5, 2009, 6:11 PM
It has been my experience over the years that there are very, very few women who are good at cock sucking. Others are adequate and frankly, most are not very good at all. Herein I believe this is because most women do not like to suck a man's penis and those who do only do so as a favor to him. The attitude usually shows since they look to get the ordeal over with as quickly as they can.

Well, Sir, I think that your comments must be base on your own personal experience which from what you have written has not been a positive experience. Get yourself the right woman, a woman like MANY of us out here who absolutely LOVE sucking on a mans cock and have the man enjoy it too, and you will be one happy fella.

I do NOT want to give the impression that I am some sort of a loose woman and that I stand on the street corner, but I never ever rush to get the pleasure of oral sex over with. Au contra ire.

While there is validity to your comments about same sex perhaps knowing what each other likes...some of us do communicate our wants and desires well.....to the right person. Someday she may come into your life and you will know the feeling.

Belle

gurlydon
Feb 5, 2009, 7:47 PM
Maybe this is iconoclastic, but I learned to suck cock from a woman, and she was an expert. I've never had it so good. The guys I suck off whether to completion or not say the same. I learned from a hot woman cocksucker and give her credit. Without that girl I would never habe learned my homo side, now my homo life.

Diana_TS
Feb 5, 2009, 7:56 PM
Originally Posted by FLArkie
It has been my experience over the years that there are very, very few women who are good at cock sucking. Others are adequate and frankly, most are not very good at all. Herein I believe this is because most women do not like to suck a man's penis and those who do only do so as a favor to him. The attitude usually shows since they look to get the ordeal over with as quickly as they can.

I would tend to think that men would be better cocksuckers than women, only from the perspective that it is easier to do something for someone else that you, yourself enjoy. And likewise, women are probably better pussylickers than men. Its just easier to work on a tool you yourself are familiar with!


I have to take issue with this also. My wife is one of the best cocksuckers I have ever met and I learned everything I know from her. I have not had a lot of experience, but from friends that we had when we were younger, I know they have the same opinion of her. She and I use to swing a lot, but only with men. I try to immulate my wife when I suck cock, and have never had an unsatisfied partner yet, that I know of that is.:2cents:

Bopit4Ever
Feb 9, 2009, 11:23 AM
Meh, I had a GAY GUY suck my dick and Ive had a better BJ from a woman. I really think I'm in the minority of men who KNOW I/we can truly suck a dick AND worship the cock.

Oral4720
Feb 10, 2009, 12:03 AM
Just have to say that my wife and I both love to suck cock and pussy. To both of us it makes little difference weather it is a man or woman doing it. We do love to suck together and find this quite a bit of pleasure. From our point of view it can be exciting for a woman to teach men her method but she can learn just as much from the man. Who is better? It's not important and it varies from man to woman.
:)

yama23
Feb 10, 2009, 1:54 PM
I seen this video this morning and thougth of this tread. I also found this video to be very informative.
http://www.tube8.com/blowjob/deepthroating-/7165/

Bi Exploring
Feb 10, 2009, 11:01 PM
Great vid. Some delicious cock sucking. Thanks for sharing.

;):male:



I seen this video this morning and thougth of this tread. I also found this video to be very informative.
http://www.tube8.com/blowjob/deepthroating-/7165/

rick1958
Jun 24, 2009, 1:09 PM
rcdoak@gmail.com for me i think men suck cock better ever man that sucked me did me better than my wife so id rather have a man suck me off

forestgreen0461
Nov 15, 2009, 5:28 PM
It is true that a man may understand the best way to please a cock but it is the womans interpitation that is so sexy. She adds a suprise and touch that is unique.

I agree oral sex from either m or f is amazing but, the dynamtic of having a woman teach it to a man, I think is so hot

JayGreen99
Nov 15, 2009, 6:56 PM
Well, having a woman instruct me on how to suck a cock would be about the hottest thing I can think of. I would be over the moon!

Anybody see that Jan B video where she shows the guy how to suck on a strap on & then the real thing? So hot!!

desertofwater
Nov 16, 2009, 7:49 AM
even i find it too interesting to learn the techniques.. bt not found any gal to help it out..

xxxcjs
Nov 16, 2009, 10:32 AM
This is one of my biggest fantasies ,

lv69cpl69
Nov 16, 2009, 11:34 AM
if we can find a cock my wife wants to teach me, someday we hope:tongue:

bikentuck
Nov 16, 2009, 2:20 PM
My wife & I used to suck cock together ALL the time, but she has since lost all interest in sex.
It is the ultimate in cock sucking & I miss the hell out of it !!

longisland4u
Nov 16, 2009, 3:21 PM
I would love to be taught by a woman on her man....

quiet1fornow
Nov 16, 2009, 4:22 PM
I am out of it a bit here I know....

When did cock sucking become and Olympic Event?? And how did I miss it? Where and when are the try outs and more importantly where is the training center?? And is this the first Olympic event that crosses the gender line for participants?? If only women try out how is the event held?? Judged?

People, people... isn't this is in reality a preference question...I may well take heat for this BUT I never ever realized sex, or oral, hetero, homo or bi or otherwise was a competitive sport/event/activity!
If one receives oral sex from someone it may well be that person or the timing or whatever was perfect and the next time...pardon me here sucked......so I can only assume as I have not had sex with each and every one of you that at any one given time a male or female might out perform ....but really what qualifies me to be judge?

And again....stepping out in front of a potential bullet here ...why is it a specific sex like oral??? I mean should we not then crown a King and Queen,...ok that could be difficult...never mind!!

Q:cool:

married male
Nov 16, 2009, 4:46 PM
My experience is far diffrent than those posted here. While having had only one bi experience ( it was less than ideal ) I have never forgotten it. After watching my wfe suck my cock for many years I now find myself needing the experience once again. And I also feel I will do a much better job after her instruction through the years.

forestgreen0461
Nov 20, 2009, 8:10 AM
It is soo hot ,I would love to try it:tongue:

PrettyFlowingGown
Nov 20, 2009, 10:35 AM
Women do it better I think!!! I love watching a woman do it though. I'd love to share a cock with a woman. Big fantasy.

Want2nftw
Nov 20, 2009, 11:33 AM
Personally I love having the wife/gf show me and join in. It adds to the erotic and sensual part of a 3some

ready5858
Nov 20, 2009, 12:50 PM
Ok Everyone has their own experiences and opinions to this subject. There is no such things as a bad BJ BUT some are better than others. I have this lady friend now who can't give head if her life depended on it, than again the best one from a female came from a married lady I was having a thing with. I have had men give me great head too but not all men are good either, I have to agree with others here and say it is the person and situation that will make it great or just get the job done.

Shakes5209
Nov 23, 2009, 1:58 PM
My girlfriend is teaching me with the aid of vibes, strap-ons, etc.. I total can't wait for the opportunity to try it on a real cock! Just seems so hard to find a m or f willing to join a 3 way... why is it so hard?

weskain77
Nov 23, 2009, 2:45 PM
I am EXTREMELY aroused by this idea. Any teachers that are interested...?

forestgreen0461
Nov 23, 2009, 7:53 PM
Yeah any NYC area folks into this ....let chat or more!!!!

bimeornot
Nov 23, 2009, 10:56 PM
Hope you can teach me. Maybe a 3some?? and then the man and the woman can have a competition;)

Twicethefun6969
Nov 24, 2009, 12:16 AM
Like with everything........ you can never, never practice too much :)

roy m cox
Nov 24, 2009, 1:28 AM
well i wish i could suck a good penis one more time :( i'd give any thing to be able to but can't do to a bad gum problem i have, my boyfriend is cool about it he'd rather suck me off and i can tell you he don't need any lessons on this subj, he's so good at it some times i end up walking funny :bigrin:


how ever i would love to watch any one give lessons that would be interesting :tongue:

Randy from Pa
Nov 24, 2009, 8:49 AM
Great subject.....wish my wife would "teach" me also,she is a excellent BJ artist,which myself and 2 other gentleman can atest too. And Belle, my dear friend,I'd love for you to "instruct" me ( private lessons). Meet you at the Cape. LOL :bigrin::tongue:

centillini
Jan 24, 2010, 2:42 PM
this is my dream for a lady to teach and/or watch me suck my first one.

Giggles100
Jan 24, 2010, 3:03 PM
Why would a woman.... teach a guy to suck cock? Wouldn't a gay/bi guy be the best teacher (I'm free for £10 per hour).......

Ain't that like a Toyota mechanic teaching a Ford mechanic how to fix a Mustang?...

Straight women amaze me sometimes with their double standards and misplaced confidence! Why would anyone want a straight woman teaching gay sex? Lmao! I can only imagine what my lesbian friends would say if a guy was teaching girls how to eat pussy ha ha!

Lesbians/Bi Women give the best oral (girl)
Gays/Bi Men give the best oral (boy)

Simples.....

IndyBiFun
Jan 24, 2010, 3:19 PM
Personally, if I can learn a new trick or two I'm all ears; or all mouth rather.

Personally #2, I would love to tag team and share a beautiful cock with a woman. Yum!

Holmes
Jan 24, 2010, 3:21 PM
Actually if the person giving is enjoying . Then the gender should not be an issue. If you are giving oral and you are loving every lick /suck or nibble it will go a hell of a lot further than someone who is going at it half assed because "it's a duty". In short if you love what you are doing they will love it as well

onewhocares
Jan 24, 2010, 3:41 PM
Great subject.....wish my wife would "teach" me also,she is a excellent BJ artist,which myself and 2 other gentleman can atest too. And Belle, my dear friend,I'd love for you to "instruct" me ( private lessons). Meet you at the Cape. LOL :bigrin::tongue:

Well I did not see this comment until now.....I blush....but...first we can do some great cooking ( Randy and I both cook) then we can have dessert!!!

Belle

Giggles100
Jan 24, 2010, 5:45 PM
If you are giving oral and you are loving every lick /suck or nibble

Please don't refer to "licks" and "nibbles"..... I'm dangerously horny and close to calling that guy from the gay bar date and going to enjoy some nibbling and licking :eek:. I'm too horny to worry about types!


I don't like to eat pussy, I only like to fuck it, so I really don't care if dykes say that they can eat a pussy better than any man can which is probably true.

Wow! I love eating pussy..... then I enjoy sucking cock too.....

rissababynta
Jan 24, 2010, 6:37 PM
I was watching something on HBO the other night about a woman that went around teaching other women the best ways to give guys hand and blow jobs. She actually stated that the women who do it best and know the best information about it have learned from their gay friends haha.

Now in my case...I don't know what the fuck happened because I never had a gay friend or any man teach me, but when I was watching the stuff she did, I was cracking up because I've been doing it her way for YEARS. To this day my husband says he's never felt a blowjob the way I do it. Guess I'm just a freak of nature.

Giggles100
Jan 24, 2010, 9:15 PM
I was watching something on HBO the other night about a woman that went around teaching other women the best ways to give guys hand and blow jobs. She actually stated that the women who do it best and know the best information about it have learned from their gay friends haha.

Now in my case...I don't know what the fuck happened because I never had a gay friend or any man teach me, but when I was watching the stuff she did, I was cracking up because I've been doing it her way for YEARS. To this day my husband says he's never felt a blowjob the way I do it. Guess I'm just a freak of nature.

Maybe your in touch with your inner gay man :bigrin:.

Darkside2009
Jan 24, 2010, 9:55 PM
I'm confused, is the singing penis on stage, before the comedian and after the stripper, or vice-versa?

I'd hate to miss his act, I'm told he does a melody of Tom Jones hits.

darkeyes
Jan 25, 2010, 12:02 PM
I'm confused, is the singing penis on stage, before the comedian and after the stripper, or vice-versa?

I'd hate to miss his act, I'm told he does a melody of Tom Jones hits.

Dunno me luffly.. but it dus all sound like a rite loada cock 2 me.. mayb ya best jus suk it an c...:bigrin:

rissababynta
Jan 25, 2010, 12:05 PM
Maybe your in touch with your inner gay man :bigrin:.

Well I always knew I was kind of manly but I never even considered that the manly part of me was gay :eek:

tpk925
Jan 26, 2010, 4:28 PM
[B]

Thats cool brenda!! My gf love making me suck cock. We often suck together. I have a friend whom I have been playing with since we about 22. he is the only guy I let cum in my mouth. MMMMMM. Then me and her share it. YUM cum all over us.:tongue:

69luvr
Dec 6, 2010, 5:04 PM
Am I the only woman, but I do find Teaching a man how to suck cock so exciting and even more so showing him!!!

Anyone else ??

Comments???

Brenda

I never gave it a though but I find it very stimulating now that you have mentioned it. I am going to try to find a woman to "teach" me how to suck cock.

PrettyFlowingGown
Dec 6, 2010, 7:32 PM
i love it too. i had a threesome once and the lady told me how to do it in a romantic way, very delicate like.....so she sucked my cd freinds cock real slow and tenderly, and then took it and did the same. they are a good coach indeed.

magari
Dec 6, 2010, 10:02 PM
Sorry I don't find this hot at all.

Men don't need any help learning how to suck cock, because it's just something that we know how to do very well, and even the worst fellatio from a man is better than excellent fellatio from a woman.

Yeah I know it's not PC to say that but it's true. It's just like how only a woman really knows how to give excellent oral sex to another woman better than a man does.

I used to think like you until I met the best female cocksucker ever....its all about wanting to do it WELL!!

dowaditty2
Dec 6, 2010, 10:37 PM
Even if I knew how to suck cock in the best way possible, I'd still take a few hands on lessons from a lady...it's definitely HOT. My question to DiamondDog...WHAT"S THE MATTER WITH YOU!!

roz009
Dec 6, 2010, 11:03 PM
I am a guy and I think that I could show you a thing or two! :tongue:

Jessicaknight
Dec 7, 2010, 1:43 AM
The best BJ's I've had was from guys
The worst from a few women
I had to teach them how to give better head.

But the idea is very hot.
I can pretend I don't know how

12voltman59
Dec 7, 2010, 6:15 AM
Even though I had had my first cocksucking experience with another guy as a teenager---he instructed me on how to do it to him. That was my first oral experience with another person---but a few years later I had a very hot and sexy lady teach me the finer points on how to perform oral sex on ladies---namely she told me to go more slowly, to watch for cues of all sorts of what was feeling good to the person I was "performing" on --- that was the best advice she gave. She basically told me to just concentrate more upon the process of "going down" on someone over the end game---or simply making them cum as quickly as possible, since if you make someone really enjoy what you are doing for/on them in a more mindful way----the end result is that they are more likely to have a toe curling orgasm at some point.

It was many years later that I went and finally had the chance to perform oral sex on another male once again---and even though I had previously had that one main experience and had done OK then----I basically followed the same method of going about performing fellatio as I had with cunnilingus and the first guy that "I did" again after many years---- he very much enjoyed what I had done for him.

I do love to go down on both ladies and men---and really like when they enjoy me doing so---with no pressure to make them cum---but for them to simply lay back and let me do my thing---which I enjoy best being able to perform oral sex on them for as long as possible.

So I guess that you can say---even though I had first performed oral sex on another guy---it was lady that taught me the finer points of doing it on ladies--with those skills she taught me transferred to doing it on guys, too.

bicurcple
Dec 7, 2010, 10:12 AM
Obviously you have not been with the right women.......I have had plenty of awesome blow jobs from women.



Sorry I don't find this hot at all.

Men don't need any help learning how to suck cock, because it's just something that we know how to do very well, and even the worst fellatio from a man is better than excellent fellatio from a woman.

Yeah I know it's not PC to say that but it's true. It's just like how only a woman really knows how to give excellent oral sex to another woman better than a man does.

nakedheathen
Dec 8, 2010, 1:22 AM
One word to genders, teeth. They need to be considered. Other than that, any lesson learned, is a lesson learned.

chook
Dec 8, 2010, 3:29 PM
Who gives a flying fuck on who can teach who or who gives the best blow jobs......as long as Electrolux dont go out of business, there will always be a head job to be had and even better if you find a model with variable suction control :tongue:


Cheers Chook :bigrin:

mr swallow
Jan 5, 2011, 6:08 PM
A women showing a man or men how to suck cock.Now that seems a litle out there.I am a BI MWM who has been sucking,deepthroating & swallowing cock's for 30 year's.The other Married men that cum to me say God you suck a cock better then either one of my wife's every did.They also say when I go down on them they don't have to say honey swallow it please,or let me know when you are cumming cum on my tit's.Shit if I have worked it up to the point of no Return I want to swallow it all down my throat.No tell me how a women is going to teach me how.

12voltman59
Jan 6, 2011, 11:23 AM
I haven't gone back through all the postings--but I really think that it should be more a matter of MEN teaching women how to perform fellatio and WOMEN teaching men how to perform satisfying cunnilingus.

Lutcho
Jan 6, 2011, 12:52 PM
I really don't understand why the Americans like to create a competition on anything. Discussion always seems to go to a "who is the best"...
I's not about competition, it's about fun, passion, pleasure.
I've got excellent blow-jobs from both men and women, so as not-as-good-as it-should form both.
Also believe I do it very well too... :-)
I think that more exciting than teaching how to do it is to do it together, to share it!

dorkyduke
Jan 6, 2011, 9:40 PM
This has got to be one of my favorite fantasies that I hope to come true one day. Maybe not so much teaching me, but sharing a cock, or even "directing" the action. If only I could find the right woman that would be way cool. As far as who gives better blow jobs, as far as my experiences have gone, my best blow jobs have come from women. The likely reason for this is that they came from women I was involved with in a loving relationship and gave them in wonderful way that expressed their physical desire for me that way and they derived a great deal of pleasure giving me one. I can give lots of examples of how I know this, but you'll have to ask me privately. What I do know is that there were times when they gave me blow jobs and acted begrudged afterwards which lead me to believe that they only did it all because they thought they were expected to do it. Wrong! I realized down the line that they were begrudged because they did even though they weren't in the mood to do it. Just like sometimes I don't like to eat pussy, even though I as a rule love pleasuring a woman that way. One thing I definitely know about a woman that is a definite plus is, after giving her a big O with your tongue she most likely will be more than willing to return the favor and not roll over and go to sleep :) My two cents, hope it wasn't too dorky. )

"Blow Job"
Jan 7, 2011, 5:17 AM
They say you can't show an old dog new tricks, but that ain't necessarly so. I thought I knew all there was to know about the technique, but a woman taught me more and I'm a better cock sucker now thanks to her. :)

bi bi baby
Jan 7, 2011, 6:47 AM
The most god awful blow job I ever got was otstanding. Silly argument.

bauer
Jan 7, 2011, 10:41 AM
I haven't gone back through all the postings--but I really think that it should be more a matter of MEN teaching women how to perform fellatio and WOMEN teaching men how to perform satisfying cunnilingus.

I have gone back through all the postings :eek: I can't believe how :(
diamonddork sounds...
I have to agree w/ 12voltman59, but I always will listen and learn from what women want...
Sign me up for lessons! :2cents:

binectar
Jan 7, 2011, 3:27 PM
Unbelievable that you could possibly have all the knowledge of all the sexual (in this case oral) techniques of all the lovers as they relate to their partners in all this world! What an astounding accomplishment! Tell me please ( I have to know!)...do bald men with one red sock give better hand jobs than the 1954 Slovekian womens bowling team champions?

I salute you. :bowdown:



You probably haven't been with the right guy yet or you haven't had oral sex with that many men at all. Otherwise you wouldn't be saying that, and no it's not bullshit that men give other men better oral sex than a woman ever can.

I've done things to men/had things done to me during oral sex with men that women don't want to do at all, or that women simply can't do, and there are fetishes and other things that only other men understand/can fulfill, and women either can't do/fulfill, and even if they could women wouldn't want to do.

Also who is to say that oral sex is expected in a "str8" relationship? I know many heterosexuals who either don't like to give or receieve oral sex and just prefer anal/vaginal sex. Anyway that's not what I meant when I wrote about hetero relationships.

You've even admitted to yourself that:


It's not your fault that you can't fall in love with men and that you're not as sexually attracted to them as you are with women; but I gaurentee you that if you could fall in love with men and were more sexually attracted to men than you are, you'd understand how even the worst oral sex between men is far better, it can be spiritual in ways that a woman giving fellatio to a man never will be, and it's far superior to that of a woman giving a man (in her mind) "excellent" fellatio. End of story!

Anyway I have no need for such instruction from a woman or anyone at all; but I'm naturally gifted at this art, as many can attest. I'm also good at being a feeder to a cocksucker if we're into those roles. ;) My ex would probably be into teaching women how to suck cock as long as they are submissive and into bondage/SM/kink and if they were his type.

binectar
Jan 7, 2011, 3:32 PM
Oh! (sorry) We both love the thought of this type of lesson taking place! I personally can testify that the best blowjob I ever got was from a man, but the next dozen or so came from women (and they were very close indeed!) I've had to instruct more men, on the whole, than I have women, so I don't believe it's a matter of gender whatsoever...just in case my last post didn't make that clear! :bigrin:

open2both
Jan 7, 2011, 6:44 PM
You're doing the Lord's work, baby! Lol!
SOME men need lessons from a sens sai.
And others (like me) were born with "the gift."
Either way... WOO-HOO!!!

69GENT
Jan 7, 2011, 9:54 PM
I do agree that some women are so talented at giving oral that it is hard to fuck anything after getting this hot oral delight.....

http://www.xtube.com/watch.php?v=OqaVL-S849-

I found a good example.... If I had a lady that enjoyed oral that well... I would have my utopia.....

BJ Hunter
Jan 8, 2011, 12:02 AM
Well first let me say I love getting sucked, edged and played with. The gender doesn't seem to matter, just the skill set. I have found, as so many others here that the best BJ's I've had have been from guys. I think this is a skill that is improved with practice. I have had not as good ones from a couple of guys, and more not so great ones from women.
I have had amazing BJ's with the mind numbing ending also from women.
The guys are far more enthusiastic in general then women, and it shows in the orgasm that is brought on as you cum in there mouth, being far more intense then someone going through the motions, and stopping when you cum, rather then sucking through to the last drop.
I haven't to date sucked, but I would certainly let a lady teach me. I think that somehow would be incredably hot!

"Blow Job"
Jan 8, 2011, 1:51 PM
I haven't to date sucked

What's keeping you? After the initial shock of a man cumming in your mouth, you will love it. You never do it just once.;)

MrBisex
Jan 8, 2011, 7:49 PM
oh yeah I like the idea get teached by a woman to learn how to suck cock. Or even better being forced by a woman to suck cock :tongue:

terri
Jan 10, 2011, 12:55 PM
last friday night i was able to show the mrs. how well i can suck cock. that was a first for us, and bi all accounts it was a great evening for all.

**Peg**
Jan 10, 2011, 2:50 PM
...I always will listen and learn from what women want...Sign me up for lessons! :2cents:

http://youporn.com/watch/200577/pussy-eating-lesson/

:bigrin:

bi man and bi woman
Jan 14, 2011, 10:45 PM
i'm looking forward to my wife teaching me for sure. i have an incredible craving to be able to suck a cock. i believe this is cause i love it done to me so much that i want to do it too. i think the fact that my wife and i sharing the same cock turns me on so very much.

tryingnewthings21
May 29, 2011, 4:05 PM
Am I the only woman, but I do find Teaching a man how to suck cock so exciting and even more so showing him!!!

Anyone else ??

Comments???

Brenda

ITS HOTT!!! i def agree with you on that one!

Gearbox
May 30, 2011, 12:46 PM
I've met a few men who could do with some cock sucking lessons. But on the whole I think women can sit that one out as teachers.:tong:

I love eating pussy, and am told very good at it too. But I don't think I'm any match for many lesbian/bi women on that front!:rolleyes:

deiused
May 31, 2011, 11:57 AM
thats soooo hot brenda,,,,, got me hard

deiused
May 31, 2011, 12:13 PM
brenda,, i would love sucking cock with ya

bullhead69
May 31, 2011, 12:59 PM
Well, they don't call me a cocksucker for nopthing. However, there is always room for improvement. I would love to take lessons from a nice lady and I would be happy to return the favor..

Bisexual Explorer
May 31, 2011, 1:04 PM
I recently had a wife tell me how her husband liked his cock sucked while I was doing it. I had sucked him before, so I had I good idea of what he liked. Having the wife there giving instructions was an outstanding, awsome experience! First, I love an audience. Second, the wife whispering in my ear was a turn on. Third, she did give me useful tips. The husband must have liked it as well; he came in buckets!
Cock sucking is a lifetime learning experience. I am always ready to learn from whomever wants to teach.
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longisland4u
May 31, 2011, 1:20 PM
very hott

nickkhun23
Jun 1, 2011, 3:50 AM
I hope that is true. Because on some issues, I agree with him and I do not care if I am in the minority on this issue.

yup:tong:

jon225
Jun 10, 2011, 5:22 AM
For me it wouldn't be about who is better m/f the whole concept is turn on.................. as i loosen my collar lol :tong:

lkn4hotsex69
Jun 10, 2011, 6:02 AM
Am I the only woman, but I do find Teaching a man how to suck cock so exciting and even more so showing him!!!

Anyone else ??

Comments???

Brenda

email me and lets meet! I'm interested!

slaphappypud
Jun 10, 2011, 4:40 PM
An ancient thread revived!:tongue:

I'll throw my :2cents: in... better late than never?

Generally it's been my experience that men CAN be and generally are much better at giving BJs. There are exceptional individuals of either gender, but the best oral I've gotten from a woman (while damn good!) is far behind what I have gotten from a man.

Nothing against women, I love then dearly and find them equally arousing, but the differences between men and women are the reason I'm bi.

jsxxx
Aug 4, 2011, 10:19 PM
i believe that i can suck a cock just as good as a woman and better than most

Jobelorocks
Aug 5, 2011, 10:00 AM
Well I certainly love the idea of this and one day I will have to teach my husband how. But heck I would settle for just watching him learn on his own. lol.

newporter4u
Aug 5, 2011, 12:32 PM
Guys know what feels good when it comes to BJs so there isn't a lot they should have to learn. Now sharing giving a BJ with a woman is hot in any sense, I love french kissing while we are working around his cock.

badman5566
Aug 5, 2011, 1:51 PM
Oh yeah! I would definitely go for that! I would love to be some lady's student in that department, especially if she has some black lovers to practice on. One fantasy of mine is to have a woman to teach me how to appreciate sucking big black cock.

Cherokee_Mountaincat
Aug 5, 2011, 3:16 PM
Oh hell no! I enjoy it immensely. Last night I treated a young man to his first bi-experiance and he enjoyed it immensely..lol He held a lover's cock while I sucked it and showed him how while my girl took pics. He loved it..lol Its very hot and sensual..;) Love it.
Cat

chub-bi
Aug 5, 2011, 3:50 PM
Oh hell no! I enjoy it immensely. Last night I treated a young man to his first bi-experiance and he enjoyed it immensely..lol He held a lover's cock while I sucked it and showed him how while my girl took pics. He loved it..lol Its very hot and sensual..;) Love it.
Cat

Wish I was a fly on that wall....lol

pepperjack
Aug 5, 2011, 10:44 PM
This is such a hot thread, right up my alley; this is why I crave a 3-way, to share it w/a woman; I learned how to suck cock both from my receiving end w/both women & men & by watching porn; I've received compliments from all of my male partners including the first, a young experienced gay guy; guess I've got a natural passion for it; would still like to have a woman next to me w/same passion, giving me some pointers.

aheatseeker
Aug 6, 2011, 3:11 AM
well here is my 2 cents. im a guy and i prefer a womans mouth over a mans. womans mouth feels warmer than mans all the time. and womans mouth feels better. to me she can get me off better and faster than any man. so i disagree and think a bad bj from a woman is better than any mans. but it all depends on what the person likes. i just happen to like female bjs better. so if any women want to practice or give me oral, im game and i am also available for women to teach any men. nothing better than a couple sharing my cock. :tongue:

wrbi01
Aug 6, 2011, 11:42 AM
About a month ago I was with my first man since I was in Junior H.S. In the middle of giving him a blow job he started to go soft. We were watching porn and he said "sorry dude.. its just not happening." I got up, a little worried I had done something wrong, and he finished off himself watching the porn not minding that I watched him finish. I asked him afterward and he said it was alright just that I needed to close my mouth more. I worried that my teeth would become involved was the reason I didnt close down more. Anyway.. that being said... I would love to get lessions from a woman or even a man so that I know my partner is enjoying what I am doing.... any education is better than no education. The experience has kinda set me back in inviting anyone else over for fun in worry that I wont perform correctly.

lv69cpl69
Aug 6, 2011, 2:29 PM
Oh hell no! I enjoy it immensely. Last night I treated a young man to his first bi-experiance and he enjoyed it immensely..lol He held a lover's cock while I sucked it and showed him how while my girl took pics. He loved it..lol Its very hot and sensual..;) Love it.
Cat

I want to be him!!!!!!!!!:male::bigrin:

Subinstl
Aug 7, 2011, 4:53 PM
That's pretty hot but I think my experience is even better. I was with a guy whos wife rarely sucked him and when she did it was pretty lame. One night he had me over. I'd never met his wife before and to my knowledge she never expected that he was getting head from someone else, much less another guy. To my surprise, she was home and after some awkward introduction, I was instructed that I was going to show her how to give a good blow job. It took several lessons but she eventually came around. I don't get to suck him as much but every once in awhile I'm invited to provide oral for the both of them. It really turned out to be a lot of fun.

othercat
Nov 13, 2011, 10:41 PM
if there is a school where woman show men how to suck cock i want to enroll!

2011dp
Nov 14, 2011, 10:38 AM
i wish someone would help me,,,,,i am a fast learner

othercat
Nov 15, 2011, 3:33 PM
i love sucking cock in front of a girl. i would do it for a group of girls. love for her to watch, stroke the guys cock while i suck it, hold my head so a guy can fuck my moth, push my head up and down on the guys cock, hold my mouth open while he cums in my mouth. fuck me with a strapon while i suck, talk dirty to me, give me instuctions. girls or couples interested contact me!

cbj4162
Nov 15, 2011, 5:28 PM
I would love for you to teach me! ...... Giddy-Up!

cbj4162
Nov 15, 2011, 5:29 PM
i'm looking forward to my wife teaching me for sure. i have an incredible craving to be able to suck a cock. i believe this is cause i love it done to me so much that i want to do it too. i think the fact that my wife and i sharing the same cock turns me on so very much.

Let's go ... Giddy-Up! LOL

lizard-lix
Nov 15, 2011, 5:47 PM
damn! did it just got hotter in here, or is it this thread?????

I'm just about drooling while reading..

We need to arrange a bisexual.com suck-a-thon!

Suckees on one side, suckers on the other.. switching places encouraged! Along with advice and opinion.

Suck, learn and most of all, enjoy!

I've never gotten to give a BJ with a lady present to compare to (hopefully one day.. soon), and as a receiver I have been lucky enough to get to say that I've never had a bad one from either gender.

michael a ramon
Nov 16, 2011, 12:02 AM
i wud like to learn when i get back to the U.S

mikey3000
Nov 16, 2011, 12:20 AM
I gotta sat that my wife is better at it than my BF. She picks up tips from gay porn and she showed me how to give head. And I've bee told I am very good. :bigrin:

Married_in_s_Tx
Nov 16, 2011, 2:21 AM
I've had oral sex with an 'inexperienced' female and an 'inexperienced' male, and the male was a lot better because it was something that he wanted to learn to do well, not just 'git 'er done'.

I've also been with an experienced male and female, and the male was not as good as the female (the guy was more gay than bi-prob 100% gay) and was too physical (rough), while the female was a married friend and she really enjoys sex and was VERY, VERY, VERY good! GAWD, I miss her! :(

koopatroopa33
Nov 18, 2011, 8:19 PM
omg that sounds so fucking hot and I would love a women to show me how to suck some cock :)

xercisecoach
Nov 18, 2011, 8:47 PM
I told my girlfriend that she needs to teach me her secrets at getting a man off in my mouth... She was so excited that I wanted her to show me she fucked my brains out and now we are on the hunt for a hot guy with a hot cock for us to suck and fuck....
Life is good... no sorry "life is great"

12voltman59
Nov 18, 2011, 9:39 PM
This thread is an "oldy moldy"--it sure did get some responses!!

Kinda brings back memories as well----with many who once came here but for one reason or another are no longer on the site much if at all----a few it was ok to see them go--others---I sure do miss them.

bigi56
Nov 19, 2011, 12:30 AM
Got to say that a good blow job for a guy is better than no blow job for a guy. Can't say I recognize a difference between one delivered bt a man or a woman, but I like women and men.

Emotional Masochist
Nov 19, 2011, 12:09 PM
hehe honestly i wish i could get some more lessons... hehehe my one and only cock sucking experience was amazing becaus eit was witha couple and she guided me along..mmm but boy was she good with her mouth. honestly im a little nervous and self concious abut my blowjob skills. so having someone take their time and show me would be awesome.:)

oralifix8edguy
Nov 26, 2011, 4:41 PM
I enjoy sharing a cock w/a woman immensley&i certainly don't need lessons-but will pretend to if that's what turns her on.but i demonstrated how to a teenager who gave me her cherry,an incredible experience!